The S word

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  1. Flanders

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    Top Democrats know that their lack of loyalty to America’s independence is becoming a millstone around their necks thanks to the Internet. If Hillary Clinton on FNS yesterday is any guide you’ll hear Democrats use the word sovereignty more and more:

    http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/fox-n...1/clinton-talks-iraq-libya/?playlist_id=86913

    Clinton said:

    “Iraq is a sovereign, independent nation . . .”.

    And:

    “Now, you can't on the hands say you are all for democracy and sovereignty and independence where people make their own choices, and on the other hand say when a choice is made that is foreseen by our own government -- going back to the Bush administration and validated by the Obama administration and the current government in Iraq -- that that somehow is not appropriate, because that is what we were there for: to give the Iraqi people the chance to make their own decisions.”

    And:

    “That's what you do when you're dealing with independent sovereign nations that have a will and decision of their own.”

    Sovereignty and independence are synonyms. Redundancy notwithstanding, when any Democrat talks like Clinton you better dig out the magnifying glass and find the lie.

    My first thought was that a person who would hand her own country’s sovereignty to the United Nations in a heartbeat was wrapping sovereignty around the Administration’s wrongheaded policy in Iraq so the policy would be palatable. Clinton knows full-well that most Americans prize sovereignty as much as they despise the United Nations and global government. Using the S word also made Clinton look like she loves America’s sovereignty as much as she “loves” Iraq’s.

    Then I realized that sovereignty is not a word Democrats are comfortable with; they would rather not say it all. Political expediency forcing them to use the S word leaves them with few context-choices.

    Milking the word for all it’s worth while lying through their teeth is the first option. When that choice becomes obviously repetitive after decades of betraying America’s sovereignty, Democrats are left with one other way to go.

    In order to silence critics leading Democrats must come right and say something like this: “Under no circumstance will I take part in handing America to a global government administered by the United Nations.” Democrats leading the charge to get the US out of the UN would erase the label of quisling for all time. A joint statement coming from the DNC would be even more convincing.

    Also, Clinton invoking democracy was more doublespeak. The worst aspect of her statements gives the impression that Americans fought and died in Iraq for democracy —— now its time to pull the troops out. Remember that she was against the invasion of Iraq without first getting the UN’s final approval. Now she talks like she approved all along.

    Clinton and her kind cite democracy knowing that it ends in totalitarian government. That rule applies to individual nations as well as to an organization populated by democracies. Clinton’s motive is obvious. Get every country to adopt some form of democracy and you’re an inch away from totalitarian global government.

    Incidentally, will the Administration overthrow the new government in Libya when it rejects democracy in favor of an Islamic theocracy? If so, America may have to send troops in this time because European countries fearing their Muslim populations will sure as hell object to NATO getting involved.


    Libya's liberation: interim ruler unveils more radical than expected plans for Islamic law
    Libya's interim leader outlined more radical plans to introduce Islamic law than expected as he declared the official liberation of the country.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...ical-than-expected-plans-for-Islamic-law.html

    Even if the Muslims who overthrew Gadhaffi pay lip service to democracy in order to receive American aid let’s not forget these immortal words by Turkey’s Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan:

    “Democracy is like a streetcar. You ride it until you arrive at your destination and then you step off.”

    Bottom line: Democrats will tear this country apart before they renounce their commitment to global government.

    Finally, Democrats should examine the possibility that Muslim countries are also working towards a global government administered by the United Nations; only they do not call it democracy, they call it worldwide caliphate.

    Link to the transcript of Clinton on FNS:


    http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/fox-n...allenges-gop-candidates-bachmann-focused-iowa
     
  2. Flanders

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    Hillary Clinton did the talkies yesterday. Here she is on Meet The Press. It takes a few seconds for the video to start playing:

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032608/#45005466

    Clinton only used the S word once, but she ladled out democracy horse manure with a shovel. I assume Meet The Press’ friendly audience does not want to hear about sovereignty, while they enjoy wallowing in democracy crap:

    You know, David, I think that Iraq is a very new democracy, of course, but it has made tremendous strides in taking care of its own security.

    And:

    And I just want to add, David, that no one should miscalculate America's resolve and commitment to helping support the Iraqi democracy.

    And:

    But the fact is that Iraq is now a sovereign nation with democratically elected leadership, with a government that reflects the interests of different groups of Iraqis and it is very much in America's interests going forward to make sure that this new democracy flourishes and we will do everything we can to help make that a fact.

    And:

    Freedom, democracy, the opportunities that people now have that were never available under the dictatorships of tyrants like Saddam Hussein or Khaddafy is certainly a new world that everyone finds themselves in, but...

    This final extract from the transcript gives the UN a bite out of the democracy apple:

    I would strongly support both a U.N. investigation that has been called for and the investigation that the transitional national council has said they will conduct. You know, I think it's important that this new government, this effort to have a democratic Libya start with the rule of law, start with accountability, stand for unity and reconciliation, make it absolutely clear that everyone who stood with the old regime, as long as they don't have blood on their hands, should be safe and included in a new Libya. So I view the investigation on its own merits as important, but also as part of a process that will give Libya the best possible chance to navigate toward a stable, secure, democratic future.

    Hussein was leading from so far behind he could not stop the rebels from whacking Gadhaffi. At least Saddam Hussein got a trial when President Bush was leading from the front.

    Clinton leaves it dangling, but there is no doubt she is an advocate for the UN’s authority to prosecute the democracy-loving rebels who killed Gadhaffi. Apparently, the smartest woman in the world does not realize that Hussein was leading from so far behind he could not stop the rebels from whacking Gadhaffi.

    Since the Administration is so committed to the rule of law Clinton should recommend the United Nations investigate itself, then prosecute its own criminals in its phoney judicial system in The Hague.

    If handing killers over to the UN is good for democracy, there’s a lot to said for killing them as soon as they are captured.

    And have you noticed creeping incrementalism in the way dictators are treated after they get out alive? Pol Pot went into hiding for years even though nobody was looking for him.

    Idi Amin lived openly, and comfortably, in Saudi Arabia after fleeing from Uganda until he finally died in a hospital while on life-support. Why in hell would anybody want to keep a guy like Amin alive is beyond me?

    My favorite brutal dictator, Mikhail Gorbachev, not only won a Nobel Peace Prize he is now a respected elder statesman in the International community.

    The rehabilitation trend is spreading to traitors. Bill Clinton is treated like he was a wonderful president with a sovereign America’s best interests at heart; the same will happen to Hussein after he leaves office. The fact is: Traitors and dictators are equal pieces of garbage in or out of power.

    Just to be clear about democracy. Neither Chris Wallace nor David Gregory asked Clinton if the American people would be better-served if foreign policy promoted limited government instead of democracy?

    Finally, not one American should die in a foreign land fighting for democracy and/or the United Nations. Not one tax dollar should be spent promoting democracy and/or the United Nations. Let democracy advocates go to the foreign country of their choice and do the fighting themselves.

    Here’s the link to the transcript:


    http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/45000791/ns/today/t/meet-press-transcript-october/
     
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    When are these closet commies/globalists gonna recognize America's sovereignty?
     
  4. Flanders

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    To Trinnity: Good question! Best answer: NEVER.
     

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