The Smollett hoax has deepened my distrust in the media.

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  1. bricklayer

    bricklayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The most recent hoax perpetrated via mass media has served to deepen my distrust of mass media. For all I know, all of the news could be fake. I don't know who, or what, to believe in the media anymore. The one thing that I tend to believe is the hate. I believe that the hate is real. I don't believe that anyone is faking their hate; and in the case of President Trump, I don't believe that people can even hide their hate. I believe the hate, and all of the right people hate President Trump. That's the primary reason that I support him.

    Please, don't misunderstand me. I very much like some of the things that I read about the effects that President Trump's policies are having on our economy, nationally and internationally, but I'm not sure how much I trust the veracity of those reports. I simply don't trust reports about this or that, one way or the other, as much as I trust the hate. The hate is real, and all of the right people hate President Trump. So far, that's what's been guiding me through this fake news storm.

    I didn't believe Smollett's claims right from the get-go because it fit too well into his expressed hate. For example, I already don't believe the accuser of President Trump's next nominee to the SCOTUS.
     
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    Daniel Light Well-Known Member

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    Why? Did they force this guy to possibly make false accusations?
     
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    It had nothing to do with the media who have kept the story alive day in and day out since Smollett dreamed it up ,they reported the story as it progressed .From his original bullshit accusations through the police questioning and obtaining evidence from the brothers who Smollett recruited and paid,to the evidence that the whole story was bullshit.
     
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    Oh Yeah, they eagerly ran with that hoax. But this story? I don't expect to hear much about it.

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    Man Arrested in Kentucky After Pulling Gun on a Couple Over Their MAGA Hats
     
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    rcfoolinca288 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    This thread belongs in Opinion, not CE.
     
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    Exactly.

    And, btw--From the LINK:

    The police report says that surveillance footage from the store confirms that Pierce had not touched Phillips.

    “The report does mention that witnesses and Pierce said Phillips pulled a gun on Pierce inside the store but this couldn’t be seen on surveillance video due to Phillips backing out of the view of the camera,” 13 News reports.

    ___________

    In other words, Videotape or it didn't happen.:salute:
     
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    Weren't all those kids from Covington Catholic High School in Kentucky all wearing MAGA hats and sweatshirts too??Must be uniform 0f the day in Mitch the Bitches Kentucky.
     
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    Let's compare those kids to leftists that are offended by the hat. This video is the norm for leftists since the day Trump got elected. Yet the leftists and the media say the people wearing the MAGA hats are the problem. Uh, no. Today's left reminds me of the Taliban, intolerant and eerily similar to Nazi Germany 1933.

     
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    No but they were all too eager to believe it. Let's not forget that I'm lying about the Covington kids.
     
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    Something to keep in mind the media does not care about credibility with you. If you at all question their journalistic integrity, they write you off. Their purpose is to keep their leftist viewers watching.

    They lost all credibility with all these illegitimate police shooting hoaxes are they perpetrated on the us over the past couple of years. This was never meant to appeal to me. It was meant to appeal to the black lives matter types.

    Televised news and all the little dying newspapers that float around are entertainment nothing more.
     
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    "police shooting hoaxes"???

    You mean the media invented shootings that didn't actually occur?

    Or do you mean something else?
     
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    No The hoax is the omission of important facts.
     
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    The liberal media has been a propaganda machine for leftist policies for years now, since trump...they have become completely deranged, fake news and gossip are the norm. The media and the Dems encourage the sort of behavior we saw from this actor. We are in a dangerous place because of this sort of behavior
     
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    A (potential_ hoax perpetrated via the media, not by it. The news wasn’t fake – it was true that the actor reported an attack, it was true that the police were investigating. While the initial allegation was reported so have the suspicions and inconsistencies in his statements and if it is ultimately proven a hoax, especially if that lead to legal action against the actor, that would most certainly be reported too.

    There is exaggeration, spin, misinformation and undue speculation in this story but interestingly, just as much on the hoax angle as there was on the initial attack. The twist in this particular story in itself isn’t justification for further distrusting the media.

    How do you determine what to believe from people in general? The media essentially just boils down to people telling you things. I’d expect a range of trust and respect across all the different individuals and organisations across the media as you’ll have for individuals and organisations in general.

    Sorry, but that is a stupid reason for supporting a politician. Even if you think the hate against him is unjustified or irrational, you still need positive reasons to actively support him.

    Doesn’t that make you no better than the media you’re attacking? You’re essentially running with a story because it fits what you want to believe regardless of (indeed, long before) any facts that actually get presented.
     
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    I do. Until it's PROVEN to be a hoax. Then it will disappear. I don't think it's risin to the level of "proven hoax" just yet. Close, but not quite there.
     
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    Wow, I am surprised you have any trust left in the media. I gave up on them a few years ago.
     
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    The media can only report what they know. What they know is from information from the Chicago PD who characterized him as a victim of an assault. They also have Jessie Smoulet's account from interviews.

    Now that additional information is available, again from the police, the media is reporting that.

    The media reported what they knew, as they knew it. The hoax was perpetrated by Smoulet, not the media.
     
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    So, not a hoax but a story that leaves out facts that you consider important.

    There is a huge difference.
     
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    I don't think it's fair to distrust all media....it's a word that is a giant umbrella. Many sources simply reported the allegation, and what the police released, and of course the actor's comments. Some in media, in particular local media, start questioning some aspects of the story, then you had national media and pundits running with it for political purposes and giving him a stage (see GMA)....the real question we should be asking...as the OP highlighted, is what does it say about our soci-political enviroment where someone could think, in particular someone with his celebrity, they could create this hoax and get away with it. His interview on GMA is very telling of the mindset of many people.
     
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    The media took his version as the Gospel and ran with it. And they used it to lecture us on how “racist and homophobic” we are. And then we found out it was all b.s.


    This stuff happens to us weekly. Anyone who trusts the media is a fool.
     
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    In this day and age, people are foolish to see the news as anything other than entertainment.

    Apparently, a portion of the potential audience is proving to be easily entertained.
     
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    The motivation is hard to understand here. He seems to be trying to raise his own profile by gaining sympathy as a victim of Trump's rhetoric. I'm not sure why he'd feel a need to do so as he's already successful in his field.
     
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    What rhetoric?
     
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    My sentiments about this story are conflicted. Gay bashing is still, unfortunately, a thing. We have to deal with it. And this was obviously a hoax. Designed to do what? Make it less likely that folks will be able to pursue justice for being bashed? Less likely to be believed?

    And for the folks on the left who ran with the racism homophobia thread.. Do you folks have no shame? Ms Kamala Harris, Corey Booker. et al, what is the justification again for your combined racist reaction and public statements? You know, it really takes some ass hattedness to get on the moral indignation meter of Al Sharpton... But hey, MSNBC et al get to have their public cry. Their "unifying hand holding" BS on TV again, wailing about the "racism" and the Hate for Gays in this country... all because one almost washed up queen cried wolf, and they were too uniformly superficial not to see it.
     
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