The solution to the Police issue, Private policing militia's for hire

Okay lets face it police in the US suck point blank. They have no incentive to change because they are protected by immunity in 99% of cases.

Here is the way the Policing Militia would work,
All members would have to pass a series of high pressure tense situations that simulate being caught in a situation where the person is armed or dangerious and having to take them down with out killing them. Also would require to pass a British course on how to police.

They would also have to learn the difference between a gun and a phone and how to react split second if a gun is pulled out.

No one would be allowed to shoot first, only after being shot at. They would get body bullet proof vests that actually work and a tazer, pepper spray, baton and hand gun as well as hand cuffs, and 1 car for every 3 people.

Once firing stops they would then have to start imminently trying to keep the person alive

Numbers would try to be around 1M or 1 per every 300.

They would be be rented out at 40K per person per year (25% going to the company)

The Militia would have legal arrest powers as per the constitution clearly states that the militia is for the security of the state and as such is allowed to be used instead of police.

I guarantee you the numbers of people shot and killed would be exponentially lower

 

Police are already trained to de-escalate the situation as much as possible without jeopardizing their own and the public's safety.

That is unrealistic. How can you tell between the two if they are being pointed in the same manner?

Again, unrealistic. For someone who apparently is pro 2nd amendment, you sure don't know jack about gunfights. You're asking someone who has a family to stand there and wait for the bad guy to fire and hope he isn't killed instantly? Come on!

Do you even live in the US? How old are you? First off, the bulletproof vests that police use already work for most of the situations they come across. Granted, they aren't rifle rated, but rifle rated plates are heavy, bulky, and restrict flexibility. Plus police tend to only run into badguys with pistols than rifles anyway. Most police officers already carry a taser, mace, baton, and handgun.

Police already do that. The reason why sometimes they don't is because they need to make sure the scene is safe. When it's safe and there's little danger of a second attack, police approach and administer aid.

Who would be in charge of this militia?

I beg to differ. I'm pretty sure the number of police shot and killed would rause exponentially.

 

Police are really bad at it in this country. Look at Europe for a real example.

Oh dear. One is a rectangle one is a cillender. They can tell if trained.

You have a vest they do not. You also are 3 to 1.

Right I was just saying that they have the same stuff.

If the person is laying there bleeding out there is no second attack.

The company. They F up they are actually repenanded.

More respect less attacks.

 

You intend to find people who are willing to stand there and be shot at first for $30K per year including benefits?

 

British method on how to police:

1. Put a guy armed with a stick in front of Parliament

2. Watch as terrorist stabs guy with stick to death

3. Have armed personal bodyguard shoot terrorist to death before he can get stabby on the important people

 

I've have seen people go out of their way to major in absurdity before but this takes the case. 1st What on earth makes you think that what you have just envisioned won't become subject to even more of the same sort of abuse you decry now? and "because you thought of it adds nothing to the merit of the idea.
2nd given the nature of the Job, the cops do about as good as humanly possible. By the way you aerage big city police force mkes do with something on the order of 1 per 16k and in some places less.

 

We’d be better off with people armed to protect themselves for free.

 

Maybe you should spend that money to train citizens not to act like punks and threaten the police when they have guns pointed at them.

Just saying.

 

...or we could just hound our local legislators and representatives to abandon the 'shoot first' curriculum DHS has been pushing on Law Enforcement nationwide for over a decade...

I don't see any reason the militias wouldn't eventually be trained in the same 'its not your emergency/ look for threats everywhere' BS that turned Officer Friendly into the SWAT Team. We have to address the root of the problem to cure it.

 

I guarantee you not only would more police officers die but the public would also be less safe. This is a hard L for everyone.

 

That's why they have private security guards.
But in most jurisdictions private police are not allowed to move the apprehended criminal (at least not beyond the property line), and the apprehended person must be turned over to the custody of law enforcement working directly under the employ of government very soon.

There is the hypothetical what if it was an emergency disaster situation and police were not able to come to the location for a long period of time.

related thread: In Mexico, armed guards take over as police are nowhere to be seen

 

So you're asking cops to just stand there until someone actually shoots at them?

Officer Friendly never really existed in the first place. Mess with an old school cop and tell me how friendly he was.

 

in my short time here, this is probably the dumbest thread ive ever seen.

 

Is there any stats to back up your claim?

Not all guns are cylindrical. For example the gun in my avatar hardly has any curves. These two videos demonstrate why cops sometimes shoot people with phones.

All right, you put on a bulletproof vest and let me shoot you. You don't know how well trained I am and you don't know if I will aim for your vest. Seriously, soldiers have bulletproof vests and yet they still die sometimes.

First off, that's not true. There are many cases where a person is fatally shot yet still have energy to continue the fight. Second, while the person shot may be out of the fight, you don't know if he had friends waiting to ambush you.

So let me get this straight, you want a private company whose main source of income is responding to crime (which is his incentive) to have the ability to determine if someone needs to be arrested or not? Also, cops are reprimanded and even fired all the time. You just don't hear it on the news.

 

I mean, I don't agree with any of it but at least the guy is trying to come up with an idea or a solution.

 

I've always wanted too know what sort of rational person thinks "Dude has gun, let's see how big a jackass I have to be to get him to shoot me."

 

Maybe the police should learn to handle there feelings.
Emotional people should NOT be cops

 

What are you talking about?

 

Very few would take the job. The number of people shot by police would be lower because there would be no police. The number of people shot by criminals would increase.

 

" liberalism is a mental disorder" M.S.
Answer to all questions regarding libs.

 

They aren't generally that's one of the reason they have police academies. However when someone tells you he's going to shoot you what are you supposed to do? Wait till he starts shooting? Jackasses don't just bray they can kick stomp and bite as well. One of the problems with having women and small men for that matter on the police force is that there are a lot of situations in which their only realistic choice is to shoot

 

The OP'er should ride/walk with a cop for a month before trying to solve any problem related to officers/criminals.

 

Canadian Astrailian and EU police all manage to go all year with bairlb any deaths.

 

They have less cops and less firearms than we do. Not only that but their culture is completely different from us.