It seems both share something from the concept of an over soul. Monroe kind of reminds me of Italo Calvino. His stories in "Cosmicomics" were creatively narrated explanations of science and scientific theory, taking us on journeys that are more than simple imagination. I am Qfwfq soaring through the Over Soul, through this "coherent energy," experiencing all in my mind, which is a simple synapses incapable of seeing the whole cosmic thing, but hearing much about it from the echoes of fellow travelers. The very best I'm capable of doing is enjoying the ride. --No mushrooms were consumed in the making of those comments.
I don't believe in a God, the soul or life force or what every one wants to call it, is you, so no, you don't have to follow any religious rules to live on after death now if karma is true, what you are in this life, could affect the next maybe originally our souls were weaker and could only drive a vessel like bacteria, then we moved up from there and are now at human level complexity
I had an out of body experience when I was a child, prob has a lot to do with my beliefs this experience scared me when it happened, I so wish I was calmer at the time, had not panicked, but I wasn't expecting it and knew nothing about it before that moment, maybe I will be lucky enough to experience it again with a calmer more relaxed mind, one can only hope all of our beliefs are based on our own experiences.... doesn't matter what we believe, were all headed down the same path - we are all gonna die one day and experience it for ourselves
Maybe....we have "moved up".... but it seems we may have forgotten something along the way... something that the other creatures, plants, rocks are still aware of. If that is the case, then we may have become a hindrance.... unless destroying this planet is part of some design.
I have a hard time believing in a soul. Where is it? What is it attached to? Is it a gene? An electrical frequency? A chemical reaction? Many scientists have attempted to lock down any evidence of a soul, but none is forthcoming. By logic and reasoning, one could, in fact, should say there is no such thing, but we are after all just humans. We have other dimensions of personality that involve emotions, feelings, and memories of them to recreate those same feelings. I don't think there is any reason to believe in a soul other than to appease our fears of death, but that brings up a conflict within me that I have yet to be able to reconcile; is all the things I have learned in my lifetime, my feelings and experiences, the nuances of both physical and emotional origin, are they all just wasted away, to become like "so many tears in the rain"? (kudos if you get that movie reference) I want to believe that just like my physical body will once again return to the basic elements to replenish the lifecycle, so too does the data I have acquired throughout my life, even though there is no concrete evidence of it surviving beyond my last breath. There's just something that tells me it ain't all for naught. I don't think that makes me a believer, but then again, maybe that is not important. All ideas are basically just constructs that we follow in order to serve our needs. Maybe that is all this is, just a construct in the mind.
Those are all aspects of objective physical reality, which is not the home of the soul. Some energy patterns manifest in detectable physical reality, and in the transition from subjective effects to physical ones, waveform energy can become evident as a particle if apprehended one way or another, including but not necessarily limited to awareness in the form of direct observation or indirectly in the form of measurement data that conforms to fixed logic. The evasiveness of subjective aspects such as soul or spirit probably involves information based on energy frequencies and patterns or higher dimensions that we can't assess. You have probably heard of the so-called Akashic Records and the notions of karma. There's plenty that suggests existence is a virtual reality. The question is, whose mind is involved? One researcher who has traveled around the world and studied native cultures thinks that there is about 20% of the population that can subconsciously install changes in the future on rare occasions and on a grand scale. Those individuals are particularly susceptible to hypnosis. Supposedly the world is a product of the universal mind. When the way things are going becomes too big a departure from the ideal, the conflict has to be reduced by triggering some drastic but apparently natural event. Sometimes a rather preposterous means is utilized, such as the wall falling on 90,000 Philistine soldiers so that they could not sack the hapless Biblical target. The best evidence is the double slit experiment. Since the 1920s and 1930s no one has been able to refute it. Even these days top scientists don't want to be pinned down on what constitutes sufficient awareness or measurement data status that causes the switch from coherence to decoherence.
I believe there's other dimensions, and our soul is an aspect of us that exists across one or more of them. Neither a soul nor other dimensions are (yet) perceivable in any objective or demonstrable manner. But I don't see anything wrong with believing in either (or neither, though I do find the concept of nothing to be very depressing in its ultimate pointlessness).
I think that Quantum Theory indicates something within us that survives after we pass on.... https://www.near-death.com/science/evidence/quantum-theory-supports-ndes.html
Nobody knows and all we can go buy are religious texts and those are never clear. I figure it's either just blackness where we fade out or we change and move on in some fashion, that is the starting point and the only two routes we can go. Since I am Christian I follow that belief but I imagine that our idea of a soul is way, way off from what God has planned. Perhaps the afterlife is tailored to the individual because I hate my family and don't want to see them after death and they hate me. I also don't want God to simply make me like them because that wouldn't be me so I don't know. I imagine it's pretty amazing whatever it is though. Now if there is nothing there and we just fade out then it doesn't really matter I guess.
Good OP - I waffled between 1 and 4 - I think the soul exists after death - and some vestige of personhood is maintained. My rational assumes the soul exists (that is a different proof) - and assumes the soul goes somewhere after death - is aware and retains memories. Let us call this place heaven. Now after hanging around in heaven for 1000 years - catching up with old friends - you decide to take a vacation - live another life in one of the millions of possible worlds - the rule being - while on vacation - you will not remember your past life. The above answers two of three questions I will now pose - 1) where does the soul go after death 2) where does the soul come from prior to - or at - birth. The one unanswered question I have is 3) when does the soul arrive in the fleshy vessel that it will occupy while on vacation.
Okay, Once in my sleep, I was called up. I'd call it astral projection but it wasn't intentional. I went to a place just above the earth that was nameless it was like a fold in space... Anyway there were many beings there but none were physically separated and they seemed to shift in and out of a 'human' form. I was there so I could see that the path my life was on would end badly. I don't remember the details of that. Then there was a sense of panic and I was very quickly descending back to my body. I went through the roof of my apartment building I saw myself and my girlfriend at the time laying next to me in our bed and a large black cloud like mass in the corner of the room. I woke up, sat up in bed gasping for breath and I was ice cold. when I sat up my girlfriend woke up too and I told her about my 'dream' while staring at the corner I had seen the black cloud in. So maybe it was just the most trippy dream ever or real. I ended having a messy break-up with my girlfriend but some months later she told me she had found the caretaker of our building naked in the laundry room screaming about demons. Otherwise my spiritual beliefs are a mix of Taoism, Buddhism and Hinduism.
Yeah I know that little tugging feeling that comes from inside when I contemplate my demise and the possibility of nothingness that says 'there is no such thing as nothing'. What cruel world if there is nothing... to think of all those innocent victims of war, starvation and torture in other countries.
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