The storming of the Capitol Jan 6th, riot or insurrection?

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Jan 6th, simple riot or attempted coup d'etat?

  1. Riot, the left are simply trying to hype it up for their own advantage

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  2. Coup d'etat, this was Trump and his deplorables trying to destroy democracy

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    42.9%
  3. Other?

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    3.6%
  1. Reasonablerob

    Reasonablerob Well-Known Member

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    It seems that so many people trying to portray a simple riot, an event a lot less destructive than many others are a coup d'etat? What do you think?
     
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    I'll meet you halfway. It was a riot and quite a lot of that crowd were intent on a coup d'etat.
     
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    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    Same folks who tell us our AR 15s are useless in the face of goverment aggression are the ones telling us an unarmed mob nearly "destroyed democracy" lol
     
  4. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    It was coup. It was planned to prevent the certification of the election and so alter the form of government. If it was a riot it could have take place anytime after the election results were known.

    It was poorly manned, led, planned and executed and so failed miserably but it was an attempted coup and an act of high treason; no amount of Republican prevarication can change that.
     
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    The insurrectionists in the front lines were attempting a coup. The tag along spectators in the rear were just that - spectators.
     
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    I voted other. It was a mostly peaceful protest with several getting out of hand. Anyone who thinks Trump was purposely inspiring a coupe is just biased and delusional. It wasn't a riot either because that implies that it was mostly a riot when it was a mostly peaceful protest.
     
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    How would the form of government be changed? If somehow the election were not certified Nancy Pelosi would become President, not Trump.
     
  8. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Trump didn't realize that, nor did his followers.

    Were the election to remain uncertified it would be thrown into the House of Representatives, who would have nearly certainly elected Biden.

    Trump and his followers were trying to overthrow an election through violence, that would have ended the USA as a Constitutional Republic
     
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    I think it was a protest that went sideways when the anarchists did their thing.
     
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    Yeah, I seen large portion of dopes walking around the capital building taking taking selfies. Worst insurrectionist ever.
     
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    Seems like you weren't paying too much attention. Yes, a lot of spectators. However, those weren't 'dopes' up front battling the police who were trying to protect the Dems and Repubs that were in session.
     
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    You’re literally making this out to be more than it really was.
     
  13. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Vas you dere challie?
     
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    Nope, I seen the same footage you did. If you’re trying to imply something, don’t.
     
  15. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    How would you feel if they actually HAD hanged Mike Pence?
     
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    Sorry, I don’t do alternate time lines. I don’t believe in violence, including lynching of Vice Presidents.
     
  17. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    I'm not implying anything, I'm saying it flat out, YOU WEREN'T THERE, neither was I but I'm relying on people that WERE. You're relying on Republicans who have a vested interest in minimizing the event.
     
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    You don’t know what I am relying on to form my opinion, you shouldn’t make assumptions. Just like I won’t assume what you’re using to form your own opinion.
    I don’t have a team in this circus, maybe you do, maybe you don’t.
     
  19. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    WERE you there? because your claim implies you know more than we do, so where does that superior knowledge come from?

    Don't kid a kidder about "not having a team in this circus". I make no claim of nonpartisanship and if you are making one I don't accept it.
     
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    “Nope, I seen the same footage you did. If you’re trying to imply something, don’t.”

    That was literally 3 posts ago. I’m not implying I know any more, or any less than you. What confuses you about the fact that I have a different opinion than you concerning that days events? I believe it was riot incited by trump, not some vast right wing conspiracy attempting insurrection. Do me a favor, and stop trying to put words in my mouth, I’ve tried to maintain the same curtesy towards you.
     
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    You said: "You’re literally making this out to be more than it really was."

    On what basis do you make this statement?
     
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    Deleted, duplicate
     
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  23. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    If you intend a coup it IS one
     
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    I believe this was a riot, and I also believe people are trying to make it out to be a insurrection. This isn’t complicated. What’s next, are you going to call me a domestic terrorist, or a terrorist sympathizer because I don’t hold the same opinion as you? If that’s the way this conversation is headed, we might as well stop now.
     
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  25. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    No. I'm going to say you should consult the Merriam-Webster Dictionary online where it says an insurrection is " an act or instance of revolting against civil authority or an established government. " This seems to pretty much describe what we saw on 1/6
     
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