The suffering of the German people under post-war Allied occupation after 1945

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  1. The Rhetoric of Life

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    The RAF dropped food and medicine over the East after the war because the Soviets were so brutal.
     
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    But today, Germany are committed to this bloc called the EU which aims to unite Europe.
     
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    My source tells me 520 SS soldiers were killed that day.
    Noteworthy is the fact that only days before the camp surrendered, 7 000 inmates were forced on a death march. We know from a reputable Jew, Sir Elie Wiesel, that the inmates were given the choice to either leave with the guards or stay and wait for their liberators. So, the camp must have been pretty empty at the time the Americans got there. I wondered, why in my source there where only four prisoners who participated in the killing of the SS soldiers.
    Again, not true. They surrendered without incident. And besides, they weren't guards, but soldiers from a garrison next to the camp. They weren't even armed at the time of the ambush. These soldiers were sent to Dachau to recuperate from their battle fatigue and wounds. Some were even seen hobbling around on crutches.
    The lowest official number is 300.
    Interesting! There was no chance to surrender! They were not the guards either and had nothing else done but fought honorably on the Eastern Front. Remember, the guards had left with some 7 000 inmates?
    Read more details in link below:
    https://www.scrapbookpages.com/DachauScrapbook/DachauLiberation/BuechnerAccount.html

    It is a bit of a mystery how these invading Americans under the leadership of Bushyhead knew about gas chambers and crematoriums in Dachau. As is now widely accepted... there were no death camps on German soil, even famous Nazi hunter, Simon Wiesenthal, said so:

    Wiesenthal Re-Confirms: 'No Extermination Camps on German Soil'

    http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v13/v13n3p-9_Staff.html

    I think, you Americans have some explaining to do!!
    But that is not the American way, they rather sweep their crimes under the carpet, lie massively about it or say it never happened.
     
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    Do you have a link for that? All I know is, how the western allies helped West-Berlin, when the Russian blocked all road, rail and boat access to it.

    The Western Allies organized the Berlin airlift (26 June 1948–30 September 1949) to carry supplies to the people of West Berlin, a difficult feat given the size of the city's population. Aircrews from the United States Air Force, the British Royal Air Force, the French Air Force, The Royal Canadian Air Force, the Royal Australian Air Force, the Royal New Zealand Air Force, and the South African Air Force flew over 200,000 flights in one year, providing to the West Berliners up to 8,893 tons of necessities each day, such as fuel and food. The Soviets did not disrupt the airlift for fear this might lead to open conflict.

    Read here:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin_Blockade#The_start_of_the_Berlin_Airlift
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    That was, of course, very much appreciated by the Germans.
    A little strange, though, because their initial aim was to destroy the German race. I guess they needed the Germans as bullwark against the Communist Russians, who wanted to advance all the way to the Atlantic, swallow up all of Europe.
     
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    YOU are not the authority on that subject! It has been established his father was a Jew.
    Roosevelt, too, wanted to destroy the Germans, and he was definitely a Jew.
    The relationship between the Jews and the Germans deteriorated after WWI, when the Jews betrayed the Germans, as one can read in Benjamin Freedman's speech from 1961, where he explained what happened during the war and why Germany lost.
    I'm sure, you are familiar with that.
     
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    And you are? By what authority?
     
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    That the Rhine Meadow massacre happened I know from a relative who was one of the surviving victims!!!
     
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    This thread is a new low.
     
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    Well, I know from my cousin's husband's brother that the only good Nazi is a dead Nazi.
     
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    Agreed, but it's well known that Nazis and other antisemitics always aim low.
     
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    The problem with you is, you can't take the truth, because the truth doesn't look pretty for the US. And your only retort are insults and accusations, i.e. antisemitism and Nazi!

    Why not prove me wrong and yourself right? If you have nothing of factual substance, then don't participate. Simple as that.
     
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    You're breaking my heart. When you start a war you never know how it might end. The winners have the right to enslave the people and kill the entire government if they wish to.
     
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    Oh? Why do you feel that way? Or what is low in this subject? It certainly was low of Eisenhower and his henchmen to take his ire out on the surrendered and helpless German soldiers. Very low indeed! Disgustingly low!!
     
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    The lack of verifiable information and the outright lies make it a new low.
     
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    I guess, with that statement you are right, and the barbaric American Leadership still acts like that to this day. I always thought the Americans were more civilized and honorable, but they are not and that disappoints me so much.
     
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    Disagreed. You should read and understand my entire posts.

    What's in it for me? You're undying gratitude? You'll start respecting Jews? Love Jesus?
     
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    Both Japan and Germany were treated far more fairly than they should have been after losing.
     
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    Agreed. What we do know is that the Third Reich murdered with machine efficiency over 11 million human beings not to mention all the millions that died in the wars started by Germany.
     
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    All led by the US since the Euros and Russians wanted to repeat the mistakes of WWI.
     
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    Considering the devastation they had wrought all over Europe and in particular the number of Russian deaths they were responsible for including the starvation of those defending Leningrad, the Germans got off relatively lightly.
     
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    It's the fashion to blame Germany for anything bad related to WWII. Huge lies and embellishment persist to today, while all the enemies of Germany were innocent imbeciles. Thank God in Heaven for these imbeciles to stop Hitler in time before he would have taken over the world with his "machine efficiency"!
     
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    Yes, they did get off too easy! Look at them now... 73 years later they are a thriving, industrious nation, the economic motor pulling all of the EU countries along, AND it has single-handedly helped Israel to get on its feet, helped the Americans fight their wars in the Middle East and never complains being treated like a dog!
     
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    They are not laughable when your own brother was one of the RWL inmates! A 1.86 m tall man weighing 43 kg! Then shipped to France for slave labor until fall of 1948.
    I think, it is high time that the Americans get a taste of that kind of treatment, so they know what their medicine feels like.

    Professor Günter Bischof is the director of the Austrian Marshall Plan Center for European Studies at the University of New Orleans. Of course he will minimize American crime.
     
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    No, they still defintiely laughable.

    A POW starving and being used for forced labor, which certainly did happen in France, does not lead to the conclusion that the Americans massacred millions of German POWs.

    Until you can find the millions bodies, it will continue to be laughable. Given that those bodies are supposed to be located at known locations in Germany, there's no excuse for a few enterprising Germans not to dig them up. That is, if they existed. But they don't, because the stories of American massacres are Nazi fiction.
     

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