The suffering of the German people under post-war Allied occupation after 1945

Discussion in 'History & Past Politicians' started by kazenatsu, May 27, 2018.

  1. Jazz

    Jazz Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2008
    Messages:
    5,280
    Likes Received:
    406
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Gender:
    Female
    I guess, with that statement you are right, and the barbaric American Leadership still acts like that to this day. I always thought the Americans were more civilized and honorable, but they are not and that disappoints me so much.
     
  2. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2013
    Messages:
    20,946
    Likes Received:
    6,497
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Disagreed. You should read and understand my entire posts.

    What's in it for me? You're undying gratitude? You'll start respecting Jews? Love Jesus?
     
  3. jay runner

    jay runner Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2017
    Messages:
    5,129
    Likes Received:
    2,450
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Both Japan and Germany were treated far more fairly than they should have been after losing.
     
    Max Rockatansky likes this.
  4. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2013
    Messages:
    20,946
    Likes Received:
    6,497
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Agreed. What we do know is that the Third Reich murdered with machine efficiency over 11 million human beings not to mention all the millions that died in the wars started by Germany.
     
    jay runner likes this.
  5. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2013
    Messages:
    20,946
    Likes Received:
    6,497
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    All led by the US since the Euros and Russians wanted to repeat the mistakes of WWI.
     
  6. 61falcon

    61falcon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2018
    Messages:
    1,446
    Likes Received:
    603
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Considering the devastation they had wrought all over Europe and in particular the number of Russian deaths they were responsible for including the starvation of those defending Leningrad, the Germans got off relatively lightly.
     
    jay runner likes this.
  7. Jazz

    Jazz Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2008
    Messages:
    5,280
    Likes Received:
    406
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Gender:
    Female
    It's the fashion to blame Germany for anything bad related to WWII. Huge lies and embellishment persist to today, while all the enemies of Germany were innocent imbeciles. Thank God in Heaven for these imbeciles to stop Hitler in time before he would have taken over the world with his "machine efficiency"!
     
  8. Jazz

    Jazz Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2008
    Messages:
    5,280
    Likes Received:
    406
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Gender:
    Female
    Yes, they did get off too easy! Look at them now... 73 years later they are a thriving, industrious nation, the economic motor pulling all of the EU countries along, AND it has single-handedly helped Israel to get on its feet, helped the Americans fight their wars in the Middle East and never complains being treated like a dog!
     
  9. Jazz

    Jazz Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2008
    Messages:
    5,280
    Likes Received:
    406
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Gender:
    Female
    They are not laughable when your own brother was one of the RWL inmates! A 1.86 m tall man weighing 43 kg! Then shipped to France for slave labor until fall of 1948.
    I think, it is high time that the Americans get a taste of that kind of treatment, so they know what their medicine feels like.

    Professor G√ľnter Bischof is the director of the Austrian Marshall Plan Center for European Studies at the University of New Orleans. Of course he will minimize American crime.
     
  10. mamooth

    mamooth Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2012
    Messages:
    4,291
    Likes Received:
    1,037
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    No, they still defintiely laughable.

    A POW starving and being used for forced labor, which certainly did happen in France, does not lead to the conclusion that the Americans massacred millions of German POWs.

    Until you can find the millions bodies, it will continue to be laughable. Given that those bodies are supposed to be located at known locations in Germany, there's no excuse for a few enterprising Germans not to dig them up. That is, if they existed. But they don't, because the stories of American massacres are Nazi fiction.
     
  11. Jazz

    Jazz Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2008
    Messages:
    5,280
    Likes Received:
    406
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Gender:
    Female
    No problem:
    http://www.hist-chron.com/eu/D/1945-rheinwiesenlager/ENGL/001-basics.html
     
  12. mamooth

    mamooth Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2012
    Messages:
    4,291
    Likes Received:
    1,037
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    You very Nazi source, the one screaming about a Zionist plot, didn't show evidence for even a single body. It was just some people saying bodies had to be there.

    So, where are the bodies? The actual bodies, as opposed to people saying that the bodies surely exist.
     
  13. Jazz

    Jazz Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2008
    Messages:
    5,280
    Likes Received:
    406
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Gender:
    Female
    10,000s of German bodies under the Rhine meadows - 100,000s of German bodies in Belgium
    http://hist-chron.com/eu/D/1945-rhe...holes-1million-victims-bodies-in-Belgium.html
     
  14. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2013
    Messages:
    78,773
    Likes Received:
    8,147
    Trophy Points:
    113
    dude, you're talking to a guy who says the Holocaust is a myth and cites Nazi propaganda.
     
    Last edited: Aug 8, 2018
  15. Jazz

    Jazz Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2008
    Messages:
    5,280
    Likes Received:
    406
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Gender:
    Female
    The World needs to know the truth about American cruelty committed on German soldiers AFTER they had surrendered!

    Following you can read some accounts about Eisenhower's Death Camps in Germany after the end of WWII:

    http://whale.to/b/bacque1.html

    Excerpt:
    Rumors of conditions in the camps ran through the US Army. "Boy, those camps were bad news," said Benedict K. Zobrist, a technical sergeant in the Medical Corps. "We were warned to stay as far away as we could."
    In May and early June of 1945, a team of US Medical Corps doctors did survey some of the Rhineland camps, holding just over 80,000 German POWs. Its report is missing from the appropriate section of the National Archives in Washington, but two secondary sources reproduce some of the findings. The three main killers were diarrhoea and dysentery (treated as one category), cardiac disease, and pneumonia. But, straining medical terminology, the doctors also recorded deaths from "emaciation" and "exhaustion." And their data revealed death rates eighty times as high as any peacetime norm.

    And here is a video that tells and shows you what it was like...

     
  16. Tim15856

    Tim15856 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2016
    Messages:
    3,618
    Likes Received:
    1,573
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I read "After the Reich: The Brutal History of Allied Occupation", written by a Brit. You might say the German's deserved what they got, and you might be right. But don't think for a minute we didn't commit some of the same crimes as they did. It's one reason Nuremberg stopped prosecuting, the Allies were looking more and more hypocritical. With war being what it is I never considered in decades past that Allied military would face war crimes, but I think Germany also should have stopped looking for people to prosecute also.
     
  17. Jazz

    Jazz Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2008
    Messages:
    5,280
    Likes Received:
    406
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Gender:
    Female
    You mean those who deny the holocaust?
    As for Allied military facing their war crimes, no such thing will happen while they still enjoy the power over their minions--> Germany. For instance, Germany is not allowed to dig for bodies along the Rhine. Or, heaven forbid, ask the Belgians for permission to dig for mass graves.
    Germany has so many restrictions and rules to obey. And Mrs. Merkel is the perfect little Goody-Two-Shoes who rather incarcerates her own people for speaking up than going after the occupiers.
    To allow to incarcerate an 89 year old Lady for speaking truth as she knows it, takes a very hateful and treasonous mind. Yet... the brainwashed Germans keep voting her back, term after term!
     
  18. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2013
    Messages:
    78,773
    Likes Received:
    8,147
    Trophy Points:
    113
    the evil bitch is a Nazi-sympathizer.

    she gets no sympathy from me
     

Share This Page