The Sun Says: The images we had to publish

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    Yes. Five million dollars per my comment.
     
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    Stalin was a great man. A lot of good has done for his country .... On Mao can not say anything - I do not know.
     
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    First of all no civilians are being killed in any part of Ukraine other than in the Donbass and by the Kiev government. Poroshenko is exterminating not only the civilians in Donbas, but also the conscripts throughout Ukraine by sending them to fight without the proper training or equipment.

    The death toll of conscripts is unbelievable, but there is a plan behind it. If the best soil in the world has no men to till it, then the widows in Ukraine will have to sell it at a cheap price to corporations like Monsanto. In other words, Washington is doing to Ukraine what they did to Russia when the Soviet Union fell apart. Over a million of the men in Ukraine have escaped to Russia to avoid being drafted.

    As for Georgia, Russia is not at war. Putin was forced to defend the Russian peacekeepers and the people living in Ossetia and Abkazia when they were attacked by Sashkavili. Georgia now has an arrest warrant out for him...but it matters not to Poroshenko's American bosses Pyatt and Nuland. They had Poroshenko give him another honored position as the Gov. of Odessa in Ukraine...and another chance to start a war with Russia.

    I have here two videos, one is the Pres. of Chechnya Kadyrov with volunteers, who are ready to fight for their supreme leader, Vladimir Putin. If you go towards the middle of the video, Kadyrov tells how Putin helped save Chechnya from disintegration.

    The second video is a birthday celebration of Vladimir Putin in Chechnya. There are over one hundred thousand people attending it.


    [video=youtube;Irj_4IVLBP8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Irj_4IVLBP8[/video]

    [video=youtube;SYXPHWFGE8k]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYXPHWFGE8k[/video]
     
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    In the words of Adolf Hitler (British monarchy worships him) - "
    "The strength of the Russian people is not in its numbers or organization, but in its ability to produce the personality like Stalin. Stalin, according to its military and political quality is far superior to and Churchill and Roosevelt. It is the only world politics, worthy of respect."
     
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    Fascism (/fæʃɪzəm/) is a form of radical authoritarian nationalism. (Remember - who spoke of the "exceptional nation"?)
    However you define "fascism" - differently?
     
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    russia thinks they are exceptional. you said they are special.

    that means Russian fascism?
     
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    About the "exceptional nation," said Obama, Hitler, Mussolini and the Japanese emperors. Russian does not speak of its exclusivity. About Russian exceptionalism other people say. For example Nietzsche said - "man - an intermediate step in the transformation of a monkey into a superman. And Russian closest to superman."
    Also great genetics talk about exceptional Russian gene. Not so long ago we with you discussed the report of the international group of scientists geneticists on the subject. Do you remember about it. Is not it?
     
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    Nazis believed Germans had exceptional genes.

    Dresden proved otherwise. :)
     
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    The takeover of Russia by the Bolshevik 'internationalists' who didn't believe in nation/states, gave rise to the fascist 'nationalists' in Germany. The Soviet Union and Nazi Germany were totally opposite ideologies ...otherwise they wouldn't have been killing one another off.

    The only thing in common between them was that they placed their respective states and their political concepts above that of human life and welfare. In that they were equally evil.
     
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    No, Nazis and Soviets were quite similar.

    both loved police state, both loved complete lack of freedoms, both loved ethnic cleansing, work camps, and dictatorship.
     
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    I'm telling you the same thing. The Nazis called themselves exceptional. Just like Obama, Mussolini, Japanese emperors. They call themselves exceptional. But the Russian do not call themselves exceptional. So others say about Russian.

    Incidentally, the bombing of Dresden - the most severe, massive and besmyslenno murder in human history. Within a few hours in Dresden killed several hundred thousand people. In city was not a single military objective. The bombing made no sense from the point of view of fighting and military Strategy. Dresden was chosen (by Churchill and his friends) as a target just because there were in him no forces capable of resisting.
    In the city, including refugees, has gathered more than a million people. Mostly women, the elderly and children. The bombing burned the city and killed all living things. Few managed to escape. Some historians say about 250 000 dead.....The ideal goal for the serial killer.
    Historians say Churchill coined the raid on Dresden, to impress on Stalin before the talks. Crazy maniac. It was a record so far (thank God) unbeaten record in a dull and besmyslenno cruelty. Even the American president to drop atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki killed at one time is still less people than were killed in Dresden.
    That bombing - a shame Western cannibals. Just like Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
     
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    I think you are a KGB agent spreading Russian Propaganda, hey You asked.
     
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    and Russia says they are exceptional.
     
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    Do you think the KGB owns the British media?

    - - - Updated - - -

    Example please.
     
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    So you admit you are an agent, at least you are honest enough, well sort of.
     
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    they say they are genetically superior to other people.

    - - - Updated - - -

    KGB owns and controls Sputnik news.
     
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    I'm always honest. I'll even show you my photograph.

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    1. It is not true. Russian do not speak about it. In Russia valued modesty. It speaks the international (non-Russian) great scientists geneticists.
    2. I will reveal the secret. KGB owns CNN, Fox News, The New York Times and many other media. Therefore, you do not look and do not read the American media. In protest against the KGB.

    See most honest media in the world - Russia Today. KGB no controls RT.
     
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    no, its a fact. The Russian govt. 100% owns and controls Sputnik News.

    Sputnik News used to be Ria Novosti, which was Soviet propaganda since 1941.
     
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    There is no KGB anymore and hasn't been since 1991.

    The clip provided by Destroyer of Illusions derived from the British Sun newspaper that along with a few others supports the idea of a republican political system in place of the existing monarchial one.

    So, it's not Russian propaganda either, but British political partiality.

    But hey, otherwise your post was bang on target and, I thought, otherwise concealed your anti-Russian prejudices masterfully. Way to go!
     
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    Yup, I agree, it is a government news agency like the BBC. And like the Beeb (which is now simply useless in the news arena so propagandistic is it) and all the US news outlets who engage in wholesale propaganda too.

    But I do find it worthwhile because they pick up on stories that the MSM in the west wholly ignore. So if you want to be informed it's (along with several other news stations) is worth reading with your propaganda alert switched on.

    And generally, I find Russia Today considerably more informative than many western news outlets too - with the same caveat about propaganda.
     
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    Given the post made by Destroyer of Illusions ("Do you think the KGB owns the British media?"), that's the daftest conclusion I've ever read.

    Take a bow.
     
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    So, switching this thread back to the original subject - and away from the daily (and I have to say, debate stifling) agenda of the Russia banging trolls resident on this forum - I'm posting the following link for a BBC radio 4 investigative story about the British crown's pro Nazi attitude and a horde of sensitive crown letters, telegrams etc retrieved by the Russian double spy Anthony Blunt from Marburg Castle in Germany at the end of WWII on behalf of the Royal family. For this service, Blunt received the patronage of the royal family and when he was later shown to be a Russian spy kept his royal position (the Surveyor of the Queen's Pictures). No prosecution was brought against Blunt either - far too embarrassing for the British state. See HERE.
     
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    You can prove this? Or as usual ...
     

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