The Surviving Twin

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  1. kazenatsu

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    When Michelle Hui was pregnant, she was heartbroken about experiencing a miscarriage at 6 weeks. After multiple scans were taken to confirm the miscarriage, she took an abortion pill to protect against infection.

    Any possible remaining material or harmful blood clots would be dangerous for the mother of two children. Days following Michelle taking an abortion pill, doctors revealed the existence of a small heartbeat. This surprise came during a preparatory scan of her uterus for a final procedure.

    Michelle had been pregnant with twins, and one twin managed to survive the miscarriage and the abortion procedures. The baby that survived was a beautiful baby girl.

    Baby Megan was born perfectly healthy and happy. She was a delightful and welcome addition to the Hui family, following Michelle’s trips to the hospital, miscarriage, and abortion.

    Think about how close she came to being aborted. All because the mother did not realize there was another twin who was still alive in there.


    related thread about Claire Culwell, another twin who came close to being aborted:
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/melissa-ohden-i-was-aborted.536829/#post-1069307989
     
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    Catherine Urhegyi yearned for a second child. She was naturally devastated, when a routine examination revealed that her unborn child was dead in her womb. The scan of Catherine’s body did not read a heartbeat. The doctors soon prescribed an abortion, in order to remove the believed remains.

    When Catherine experienced heavy bleeding after taking the medication, she returned to the hospital to complete the procedure. Before a second drug was given, a second scan of her body revealed that there was a heartbeat. Her baby girl had survived the advised medical procedure.

    The doctors hypothesized that Catherine might have miscarried a twin.

    Unfortunately, despite their baby surviving an abortion, the Urhegyi family was still faced with an agonizing dilemma. There was uncertainty about the baby having long-term health problems because of the abortion medication.
     
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    Sara Fisher was advised by her doctors to have an abortion. She was pregnant, and had given birth prematurely to one of the twins inside her. Her little girl Emie, had died after being born at 21 weeks and six days because of an infection. The doctors feared the other twin wouldn't survive, and felt termination was the best course of action.

    However, Sara's baby boy Jacob made an appearance 8 days after his sister. Jacob managed to beat the odds, and survive the threat of an abortion, infection, and being only 23 weeks old on delivery. He was a mere 1 pound and 4 ounces at birth, and became Britain's most premature twin to survive.
     
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    What exactly is your point?
     
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    All three of these stories involve a situation where the parents were aborting due to medical issues involving the fetus but didn't realize there was another twin in there. Even medical abortions can sometimes have unforeseen consequences and result in the termination of a normal healthy fetus who would have been wanted by the parents.

    Some will try to brush this off as just an "accident" or "medical error". But whenever a woman is choosing to abort for medical issues related to the fetus, there's always the small chance there could be another twin in there they don't yet know about.
     
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    No, all three of these cases involve miscarriages where doctors prescribed abortions afterwards as a prophylactic against infection.

    But it’s very par for the course for anti-choicers to misrepresent the truth in their quest to restrict women’s rights.
     
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    Abortion is murder, should never be considered, even if medically necessary, because it murders lively little cherubs like these? Same point all the nutters make.

    (Notice, it's never potential Ted Bundy's that are aborted, nope, it always the next savior.)
     
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    It could have just as easily been a case where something was wrong with the fetus.

    Anyway, do twins surviving abortion, against the harrowing odds, make pro-choicers feel uncomfortable?
     
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    No, why would they?

    Why are you missing that each of these involved natural miscarriages?
     
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    And here we have actual the answer to:

     
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    And another twin who came close to being aborted, an unborn child the parents would have tried to save if they had known the other twin was in there.
     
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    Right which they did in each of these cases.

    Seriously do you not see the problem with bringing up women who wanted to keep their babies and had natural miscarriages as arguments against abortion?

    Literally zero pro-choice people have any issue with women who want to keep their pregnancies and miscarriages in such a situation are tragic.
     
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    The contents of other women's womb's will never be any of my business. ( or yours.).
     
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    These are rare cases. Normally the other twin doesn't survive.

    Oftentimes they may not even ever realize there had been twins in there.

    Just suck that uterus out, contents and all, and don't ask any questions.
     
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    This hurting your argument even more.

    What’s up with the selective quoting? Don’t have the intellectual integrity to address my other points?
     
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    The other twin doesn't survive because it dies during the abortion.

    Abortion can kill babies who were wanted.
     
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    No, one twin dies because of a miscarriage and the other lives because doctors do their jobs.
     
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    Seriously, what is the argument that derives from this? Ban all women who’ve had miscarriages from getting a doctor recommended abortion to prevent possible infection afterwards because there might be a twin?

    If such a law was passed and a woman dies as the result of an infection that an abortion would have prevented, can we imprison an anti-choices after every death?
     
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    The doctors didn't do their jobs in these cases, did they?

    If they had, the other twin wouldn't have come so close to being aborted.

    Or maybe they did do their jobs and this is just standard medical practice.
    Which is all the more damning...
     
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    What is Sudden Infant Death Syndrome then? Proof that God condones infanticide?
     
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    They did exactly their jobs: the bases their medical recommendations off of the best information available and then immediately revised them when they had contravening evidence.
     
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    Proof that neither god, nor those opposing abortion really care about human life.
     
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    Go to 1:25 into the video. It has to do with twins.
     
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    "Why are there THREE arms in that pan?"



    Graphic picture of what those body parts in a pan typically look like here.

    Of course, if they see that it was twins they're just going to keep it to themselves and the woman certainly isn't going to be told.
     
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