The swiss federation, the most democratic country of the world ?

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  1. VotreAltesse

    VotreAltesse Well-Known Member

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    Hello,

    Swiss is probably one of the most exceptionnal country the world ever knew. For instance, it's probably one of the only one country who had many ethnic group inside it and stay peacefull without having an ethnic group dominating. For instance Russia is a multi ethnic country, but globally, the slaves dominate it all, the city of Belgium* is half french half dutch (okay, not exactly dutch) but have many troubles to stay united.
    French, italian, german live well together in Swiss without any dominating the other and it make swiss truly exceptionnal.

    Swiss have a long history of tolerance attracting persecuted intellectual of the whole europe as for instance Rousseau or Einstein.

    Why do I call the swiss federation the most democratic country of the world ? It's because the switzerland have something truly exceptionnal called popular initiative. At the opposite of the USA, it exist both at the local scale than to the federal one.
    It means that the citizens of swiss can directly impact their future without having to wait that their elites want to do it.
    Swiss are so a truly responsible of their own people, indenpendant people.

    The problem of most democracies is that an election is just a way to give up all your power to a governement for many years, and you have to wait the end of the mandate to be able to give your opinion again.

    *got the joke ?
     
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    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

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    Switzerland is exceptional. The only way I can think to replicate it's success is to use Swiss people.
     
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    VotreAltesse Well-Known Member

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    You can't replicate another country model. The cultural differences between european countries are huge and european and american culture became poorly related.

    However, you can get inspiration from other countries and swiss is a damn inspiration.

    I would probably open a new topic too about Athene and stochocratia.
     
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    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

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    Well that was my point...I was joking.

    The fact is, you can't replicate Switzerland because it requires Swiss, with their own specific culture. Its why Italians break their own traffic laws and Germans obey theirs; it's a deep culture thing.

    It's why Norway is Norway and Venezuela is...Venezuela even though they both have oil.
     
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    VotreAltesse Well-Known Member

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    Yes by the way. What I mean is that you can still use some country mechanism as inspiration but you don't have to copy it. Democracy with elections, and despite their different cultures, many countries copied it finally.
     
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    But the results vary.
     
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    VotreAltesse Well-Known Member

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    By the way, but a people without any audacity will in the end disappear. Democracy was a risk first, but a worthy one.
     
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    Yes, probably. Because of its federalism, dividing power amongst its various provinces, and because of its small size.
    And, not to forget, also because of its protectionism, it doesn't let just anyone come in and join the club. Especially when it comes to its neighbor to the South, which for all intents and purposes has a generally lower standard of living.

    Of course Switzerland can afford to be small because it is protected by its bigger neighbors on all sides and has historically served as a buffer state.
     
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    VotreAltesse Well-Known Member

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    Small, yes and no. It's not monaco either. It's roughly the size of austria.

    Furthermore, during History, Swiss was not protected by it's bigger neighbours but rather threatened. Napoleon was the last one to successfully invade swiss and swiss always had a good army. Furthermore, Swiss have a huge advantage : mountains, a lot of mountains. Swiss is hardly invadable for in the end few interest. It's not a huge food producer, and if they have some good industries, they're often willing to trade.
     
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    Interesting thread. Perhaps the Swiss are exceptional because they don't allow immigration?
     
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    VotreAltesse Well-Known Member

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    30 % of swiss people have at least one parent who is a migrant or are a migrant. I'm not sure however they have low standarts as every country.

    Did you ever heard of all chinese migrants in France or UK putting the mess ? No. Because they don't even if they're numberous. The problem of Europe is not immigration but a civilization conflict between secular christian europe and islam.
     
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    How many Syrian refugees has Switzerland granted permanent residency to? How many Turks?
     
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    I honnestly don't know. Anyway, it's not really the topic. Anyway, my opinion about refugees is that they should be helped, but helped by helping them to go to some other muslims countries.
     

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