The Tate Plan for a Basic Minimum Income for all Canadians.

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Can a Basic Minimum Income be financed by PRODUCTIVITY?

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  3. I would like to think so but I am having trouble imaging this working.

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  1. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hoosier8... where has anything like this actually been tried before that was financed through anything like the truly BRILLIANT Lincoln Greenback Monetary Policy experiment?

    You have made an important point.........
    this is a part of the full formula but here is the planet that our Creator wants by the year 2185
    and it is one where the chains have been broken and the captives set free..........


    It is a world where Isaiah chapters 42 - 46 have been fulfilled... .and I personally do believe that
    we will be shocked when we come to know fully how large a role President Trump and President Pence will play in this transition.... (Yes.. there is a prophecy by Ms. Kat Kerr that V. P. Pence will be President for eight years and I personally take Ms. Kat Kerr very, very seriously........ because my wife has similar gifts)!

    I believe that a real estate boom in rural land within one hundred miles from major cities is one important part of a full response to the vulnerable Derivatives market?!

    Could a real estate boom plus better Fed policy pay off USA national debt?
    By the year 2185.... this is the type of economy that the Creator wants the USA and much of the world to have by then:


    https://www.near-death.com/experiences/exceptional/howard-storm.html#a04


    IF CANADIANS AND AMERICANS EACH HAD AN EXTRA FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS COMING IN EACH MONTH......... HOW MANY WOULD CHOOSE TO SPEND TIME AWAY FROM LARGE CITIES?

    I believe that a significant percentage would do so, so........ it seems that we are getting close to the fulfillment of those two exceptionally insightful predictions by David Wilkerson and near death experiencer Howard Storm????

    Hoosier8.... please remember..... I am NOT suggesting raising taxes..... I am suggesting a modern variation on the brilliant President Lincoln Greenback monetary policy experiment that saved American taxpayers FOUR BILLION DOLLARS IN INTEREST PAYMENTS!


    https://www.michaeljournal.org/articles/politics/item/abraham-lincoln-and-john-f-kennedy

     
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    A Canadian City Once Eliminated Poverty And Nearly Everyone Forgot About It
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    But what I am proposing is different.......
    I am proposing a Basic Minimum Income check for ALL THIRTY SEVEN MILLION CANADIANS!

     
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    Finland.

    https://www.apnews.com/f80234e1958e4635ba01c5aa83f09778
     
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    Thank you for this.....
    but my plan is different in that this is not a Basic Minimum Income for the poor or unemployed........
    it is a Basic Minimum Income to all thirty seven million Canadians.

    I am hoping to turn Canada into a nation of investors.

    Many people will invest in their homes and properties.... but others will
    get into the markets.



    Finnish basic income trial: creates happiness, but not jobs

    For some Canadians.... I am hoping that they
    get into shifting the North American and world economy:

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ada-and-unified-field-theory-of-m-w-p.548225/
     
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    As with most things, free stuff is never really appreciated by the receiver. This is due to human nature. To make people productive or creative they need impetus to do so and often that is either personal drive or necessity.
     
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    But this isn't exactly free because it is paid for by the INCREASE IN PRODUCTIVITY
    that was largely done by our ancestors..... and then multiplied exponentially by inventors like Nikola Tesla, Albert Einstein and all those millions of scientific geniuses who have transformed our economy.

    The present set up for our economy gives the rewards from the work of our ancestors and inventors and scientists largely to the top one percent of the top one percent of the INVESTOR CLASS...... but I am postulating something completely different!


    https://www.near-death.com/experiences/exceptional/howard-storm.html#a04


    President Obama and his team between 2009 did a variation on Quantitative Easing that did succeed in preventing a full scale Global Great Depression..... but..... their plans did not do for the economy what was hoped so....... what do we do............. we try to think of a different variation on this!


    FORGET IRAN, IRAQ, UKRAINE
    THIS IS WHERE WWIII STARTS...


    If somebody somewhere does not come up with something that can actually work then:


    https://www.near-death.com/experiences/exceptional/howard-storm.html#a04
    One of the posters here on the forum explained how humans..... . through the power of our choices... can alter the future in alternate universes / examples of applied Multiverse Theory (applied by G-d that is)........... and examples of fulfillment's of Ezekiel chapter 37.

    The Philosophical implications of Multiverse Theory?

     
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    Productivity that has proven to not exist in Finland's trial. People do not suddenly produce because they get free stuff. They produce because they have outside forces to impel production.
     
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    But.... Finland's trial was only on unemployed people.....
    and did not include the productive part of the population!

    There is a segment of the population who are very difficult to employ......
    and they will even have trouble employing each other even if they have more money.......
    They have enough sense to hire those twenty percent of the population who do eighty percent of the work if those people are at all available to do what they need done to their home or yard or car.
     
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    Well informed comments like the following make this all worthwhile:

    Bryan J Malvern
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    https://www.facebook.com/groups/565...559159081551755&notif_t=group_comment_mention

    "Yellow Vests Canada"
     
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    The producing population already have the impetus to produce and do not need encouragement. Instead, the idea of free money would put more pressure since the producing people will have to come up with the taxes to pay for everyone. Right now in Denmark if you make 70,000 a year you are already paying more that half of what you make in taxes.
     
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    But........ getting Americans and Canadians to pay high income taxes is a myth.......
    put on a population of astoundingly ignorant people.....
    by a group of people who hire extremely good lawyers and economists to
    sell their objectives to the majority.

    The easiest way to understand this is to go back to the President Lincoln Greenback monetary experiment
    and look at why it was inflationary.

    To my thinking it was inflationary because......
    Lincoln took the most well trained and productive workers off farms, out of shops, and out of
    what factories existed at that time...........
    he paid them to shoot cannons, muzzle loaders and some new rifles at their opponents..........

    which created a situation of decreasing supply at the same time that more money created extra demand....
    so of course... there was inflation............
    high inflation.......

    which is why Canada and the USA marketed Savings Bonds during WWII... .that was actually done to
    decrease inflationary pressure on the economy.

    https://www.michaeljournal.org/articles/politics/item/abraham-lincoln-and-john-f-kennedy
    I have read a powerful case that the Canadian officials who drafted the British North America Act seemed to want the federal government of Canada to follow the example set by President Lincoln....... and create money as it was needed in the economy.....
    so only the provinces could levy income taxes on Canadians.
     
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    The province of Alberta is closer to separation from Canada than at any
    time in my sixty years. Sometimes a rather desperate situation calls for
    rather drastic action.




    Andrew Scheer, I am willing to take on either M. P. Sean Fraser or M.P. Bill Casey.

     
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    What Canadian households are spending most of their money on

     
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    What I am proposing will cause a considerable shift in the economy of Canada.

    Most of the shift will be very positive but there are a few obvious possible negatives.

    A tiny percentage of Canadians will tend to try to live off a paltry five hundred dollars per month and will simply use it to feed a negative habit or two or three but.... I am certain that is far, far, far less than ten percent of Canadians and this tendency can be dealt with by limiting the way this B. M. I. is paid out to certain patients who have known medical conditions.


    Canada's Worst Politician .... the film series concept!

     
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    Actually... this is for anybody who is well informed about the possibility of a
    one hundred trillion dollar meltdown in the world's Derivatives market who would

    consider this to be ONE part of a good alternative to that scenario... because it could lead to
    a BEAR market.. which is similar to 1929.


    Here is another important part of a full response to the possibility of a Bear market:

    Responding to a BEAR market vs a Bull market?

    I believe that one significant part of responding to the vulnerable world Derivatives market would be
    to get political leaders to forget about the silly Carbon Tax or Cap and Trade System and
    embrace a truly win - win - win - win - win strategy for stabilization of the climate.

    The movement to do this could well begin in Canada due to our having the Bay of Fundy which
    presents us with the question of what happens in the area of the world with the most extreme tides.......
    if even a modest average rise in ocean levels does occur?












    Tony Lovell on Soil Carbon: Putting Carbon Back Where It Belongs – In the Earth (TEDx video)






     
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