The terrorist state Saudi Arabia strikes again

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  1. Ethereal

    Ethereal Well-Known Member

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    Obama's only mistake was that he didn't pull all of them out.
     
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    Let's recap shall we

    1) Obama called the war over

    2) Less US troops = rise to ISIS

    3) Obama put troops back in


    Obama used the war to win an election, sounds familiar?
     
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    Sure, let's start with the original decision to invade and occupy Iraq based on lies. If I recall correctly, that wasn't Obama.

    Good. He should have followed through on that.

    Wrong.

    ISIS is just an Al Qaeda spin-off group. And Al Qaeda embedded in Iraq years before Obama even became the president. The Iraq war debacle was 100% Bush's fault, along with the congress that voted in favor of it. Only a complete partisan would try to blame Obama for what happened there.

    Obama was a terrible president in many ways. But Iraq was not his fault. It was Bush's fault. And Hillary Clinton's fault. And John McCain's fault. And Lindsey Graham's fault. And Dick Cheney's fault. Obama's biggest mistake was that he didn't leave immediately and completely.
     
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    Wrong on all accounts..

    Sorry
     
  5. Ethereal

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    Nothing I said was wrong.

    Bush is responsible for invading and destabilizing Iraq in the first place. That's the only reason why Al Qaeda in Iraq even existed.

    Your partisan attempts to foist responsibility onto Obama are utterly risible.
     
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    Ok,,,But the US is still a Super Power, and those two are a disaster. I wouldn't call that a victory for them and defeat for the US.
     
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    Whether or not the insurgencies in Iraq and Afghanistan have achieved "victory" YET is neither here nor there. The point is that they have not been defeated in almost two decades of occupation by the US military, which disproves your asinine theories about the virtually unassailable nature of US power. Not that anyone was talking about assailing it in any case, but THEORETICALLY, faced with a homegrown insurgency, the US government would encounter the same difficulties it faced in places like Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan. A US victory in such a scenario is not a foregone conclusion as you seem to believe.
     
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