The threat of armed protests fizzles... for now / in 2 days, Biden/Harris will be inaugurated

That sounds like right wing fantasy to me. "False flag job!" They've been shouting that about 9/11 for nearly two decades, and this is no more credible than that.

You should start a thread on the Conspiracy Theories forum for that kind of utter makebelieve. I'm all out of tin foil here.

 

In that case, they must be too stupid to understand that the phrase "foreseeable future" is an oxymoron.

They aren't afraid of what their country will become in the hands of centrists or leftists, they're afraid of what their right wing echo chambers tell them it will become.

 

They are. Therein lies the fallacy of the claim that the federal government, under a Democrat, is going to confiscate our guns.

States makes their own rules on what types of guns and accessories can be sold in their state, and to whom. For example, California law states that you can't own a gun with a magazine that holds more than ten rounds, but here in Colorado I'm allowed to own my Beretta with a 12 round clip.

 

Not a trail of dead bodies ... a mountain of them.

 

Oh, boo frickin' hoo. Many sources back this up. It seems that the information sources that you frequent are lying to you, but most reasonable people tend to trust (up to a point) a report they see on multiple media platforms.

 

On the one hand, Democrats reserve mercy, tolerance, and excuses for their own numberless acts of complicity, rebellion, lawlessness, violence, destruction and death across this nation. Thereby saving up their wrath and condemnation should another philosophy assume as much as a single presumptive trespass against law, propriety, and reason. It is grossly absurd. On the other hand, the DC riot was on the Capitol itself, with members in session, and by all appearance was an act to reverse an election by force or intimidation. This places the matter on a whole other level, which by its gravitas, constrains us to join with our most foul Democrat countrymen in condemnation of the intrusion. It had not to be, and yet it is. So it is to Republicans to bear the greater thing.

 

Yes, true. And you can form your opinion that it was a "mostly peaceful" riot if you choose to avoid viewing the many videos showing otherwise.

Opinions based on false information, or information that has been doctored to support a specific set of views, are invalid opinions.

The riot in our Capitol on Jan. 6 2021 was insurrection, brought about and spurred on by a spoiled brat who got himself elected four years ago, made a huge mess, and wanted to continue in power to such an extreme that, knowing he was losing in the polls, has been claiming election fraud since several months before the election. His rhetoric since losing that election has become more strident.

Apparently, you haven't seen the videos on which the rioting mob shouted at Capitol Police that Trump invited them there, that they were listening to Trump. Apparently, you've not seen the videos showing Trump flag carrying rioters beat the holy crap out of police officers on the Capitol steps, one beating a cop with an American flag (and the guy probably considers himself a patriot). Apparently, you missed the many videos showing the mob breaking windows and smashing through doors, something that got one woman shot dead on the spot.

Mostly peaceful. Right.

 

i.e., killing a cop by bashing him on the head with a fire extinguisher.

 

I enjoy a good fanstasy as much as the next person, but GEEBUS that one is hilarious.

(And fyi, "agent" should be plural in that context and "provacateurs" should be singular.)

 

I don't know why they can't seem to make a gun where the safety can only be removed via thumbprint. My little gun safe works that way, why not the gun itself?

 

By unplugging from the right wing rhetoric they've been listening to exclusively for years? By being told the truth? By slow example that a Democratic administration is not out to destroy their country, as they are ceaselessly being told?

I think the people who were lied to so much that they were willing to do something so desperate are worth saving, but I doubt that anything we can say or do here, or via government, or via non-fake information sources, will sway them. Too far gone? I suspect so, but I hope not.

 

These are our fellow Americans ... that's the sad part. I hold out hope that not all are irredeemable, but I'm an optimist.

 

the last thing they'll do is look inside themselves cos it's ugly in there, admitting 1 wrong and it's down that slippery slope they go!

 

No. Thats anti-gun propaganda. All firearms must be shipped to a federally liscenced dealer who must perform a background check before they can distribute (sell) it. With the one exception in some states of blackpowder cap-and-ball firearms, which I bet have not been used in a single gang shooting.

Sure- make all my guns 'smart' guns... I will disable and remove the smart tech as easily as the criminals who steal smart guns will. Its a huge giant pointless waste. A firearm is not a complicated device. The metallurgy is modern, but the mechanics of its operation are no more complicated than a door lock. 'Smart guns' are a great idea for morons who leave their guns lying around kids, and for cops worried about someone getting at their holster. Thats all they'll ever be good for, and neither are a reason to make any new laws about smart guns.

But getting back to the original point here... you say Biden's platform is all about helping to enforce current laws... so, does he or does he not support a new AWB, and does he or does he not intend to follow through with one, and how does an AWB 'help enforce current laws'?

 

What does an Air Way Bill have to do with Guns?

 

There is that orange man bad TDS again...

 

What I think is interesting-- though I observe this not as any justification for the MSM, & probably not anything that will make you feel better about what you see as their transparent bias-- is that my impression of the Capitol incident, which I got from the Mainstream Media (if you also include the PBS News Hour in that classification) is as I stated it. I cannot actually quote you what any commentator said while the images of the event were on the screen, because I believe my own eyes. In other words, because ALL news outlets have some bias, which I realize (as a long-time consumer of news), I have learned to assess what is accurate & what is hyperbole, by focusing more on facts than characterizations. While I actually do not recall hearing the incident being called an, "armed insurrection," I can recognize that would be an overstatement-- which news broadcasts do, not just out of bias, but to generate ratings (though I am still w/ you in my disapproval of that tendency, even if I understand their financial motivation-- except for PBS-- for making a bigger deal out of ANY story, including non-partisan, weather events). But the information they provide is not limited to their editorial comments ABOUT that information. This includes film footage, quotes from politicians & others throughout the political spectrum, and interviews with experts, not to mention the citing of many other informational references. I believe a person is capable of discerning the validity of an interviewee's assessments, of a security situation, for example, based on that person's resume-backed qualifications (or lack thereof), regardless of whether the interviewer is clearly in agreement with the purported expert, or rolling their eyes at what the person is saying. Then there is also the, "skill," of being able to recognize a logical argument from a non sequitur, or speculative one. The only criterion one should NOT use, in deciding credibility-- no matter what news source, or where one's own political sympathies lie-- is to base their judgements on how closely it conforms to what the listener wishes to hear. It is unfortunate that so many, and not ONLY consumers of MSM, put this last yardstick first, in evaluating, "news."

 

Uh, what? You tell me, you brought it up.

The air waybill indicates the shipment's destination address and includes contact information for the consignor and consignee (receiver).

If shipping firarms, both the consignor and congsignee must be federally liscenned firearm dealers or the shipment is illegal. Beyond that, I have no clue what you're talking about.

But, again, getting back to the original point here... you say Biden's platform is all about helping to enforce current laws... so, does he or does he not support a new AWB, and does he or does he not intend to follow through with one, and how does an AWB 'help enforce current laws'?

edit- oh i see, AWB is Assault Weapons Ban. My bad...

for clarity: you say Biden's platform is all about helping to enforce current laws... so, does he or does he not support a new Assault Weapons Ban, and does he or does he not intend to follow through with one, and how does an Assault Weapons Ban 'help enforce current laws'?

 

He does and it doesn't, so?

Somehow, keeping you from having magazines of over 10 and an assault weapon lookalike doesn't seem like the End Of Democracy, but that's just me.

 

So your claim about Biden's gun control plan just being 'enforcment of current laws' was bullshit.

I'm just tryna get some honesty...

 

Thank you for a very thoughtful and thought provoking Post to which I can add very little.
I especially agree with your last point. If I understand you correctly, you are basically saying that people tend to support those news outlets that reflect their own opinion. Is that an accurate interpretation of your thoughts?

 

I just don't think that applies to all Trump supporters. Like most of us, they had rough times due to the crash of 2008. Then, they were targeted by liars playing on their fears throughout the Obama years, and Trump was like tossing a molotov cocktail into our "corridors of power." I get that, the desire to shake things up.

I've made many errors of judgement in my life, and I've been able to turn the page. I'm hoping that most disappointed Trumpsters can do the same. We on the left are not out to destroy our country, and we're not out to get them.

 

If the orange hairpiece fits . . .

 

we've all wanted to shake our Gmt. up in hopes of improvement, but this wasn't a faction looking for improvements, they wanted a great white dope for decades to save them from the boogeyman at any cost. they wanted an asskicker to beat the Dems senseless and when he lied viciously about Obama / Kenya they knew they'd found their prize pig and went whole hog for the worst they could manage. it ended up with morons storming our Capitol and nearly murdering anyone they perceived as the enemy. I never made those kinds of mistakes lol