The U.N. ,Democrats, and their plan for America

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  1. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sometimes even looking up doesn't help.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Human behavior is just that....that is why we cannot depend on the leadership under human behavior to "change the world".

    And Jesus did say, to love the" Lord your God with all your heart mind and soul.That is the 1st and greatest commandment the 2nd is like it love your neighbor as yourself". Question.....what do we do about governments like Russia and China that proudly proclaim there is no God. Government is god.?

    We don't wait for anything.....we do His work.

    The UN is an institution based on the human behavior you spoke about in the 1st sentence!
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, to a greater degree the Black American culture.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And they have forced abortion/sterilization, internment camps for Muslims and Christians. Do those things bother you at all?
     
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    And this is what I meant by the 'God' one worships and the belief they espouse. Christians worship the Triadic God, Father (Creator), Son (Word), and Holy Spirit (Comforter) who gives us peace. This is why you will never see a Christian coming out of a Church raging with revenge for a wrong doing. If they do, then they are not truly Christians because they lack the peace of the Holy Spirit.


    Each culture has something to contribute to this world, and everyone grows by being in contact with others. Yet the element of distrust is always there, as well as the arrogance when others fall short of one's own standards.


    God Allowed it. Did God enlighten the righteous in Jerusalem to leave before the massacre? Maybe! What is unusual is that the Crusaders attended Easter services right after the massacre without any remorse. When someone asked them how they could without doing penance for their sins, they said that the killing was penance enough. Anyway for the Europeans, the contact with that part of the world did pull them out of the Dark Ages.

    God is Pure Love and Creation. He cannot negate from His own Creation or He wouldn't be Pure Love and Creation. It's man that brings evil upon himself when he turns away from God. The reason it's written in the Old Testament that God is commanding something, is because it was the only way people could understand it in that time and place. It's like a parent telling their child to stay away from a place, rather than trying to explain why they shouldn't go there.


    If you mean WWIII, well every nation that is in that war will be destroyed. Not all nations though will be in that war. If you mean the antichrist and when he will be elected a world leader? Well, he's going to reign for three and a half years, persecute Christians and if the time wasn't shortened there would be nothing left on earth.
    I'm very much for international law and the good the UN does, but not if laws are written up that run contrary to a person's beliefs and culture. What I do fear though, are the plans of certain 'elite' financial interests. We've seen the destruction in the Middle East these past decades, and it might be minimal compared to what's in store for the future.
     
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    We can depend on rule of law though, to bring order into chaos. (Imagine the chaos if some US courts were backing Trump's claims about electoral fraud....)

    But we have to be aware that the concept of individual liberty (sometimes even called sovereignty of the individual) MUST be balanced on the scales of justice within rule of law, because individuals are - as we all agree - competitive and self-interested in a world of (apparent) scarcity. But we need to be aware that scarcity IS now an obsolete concept from classical economics. There is now NO real scarcity of essentials in the modern AI and IT assisted economy.

    The Russian government, and its people, are now very much back to proclaiming belief in God via orthodox Christianity. [Hence the current hulabaloo rover homo-sexuality in Russia].

    China has never had a tradition of belief in a deity as such, instead finding order variously in Confucianism, Buddhism, and various types of spiritualism.

    But in a global world we all need to seek that order through combining the best all the above traditions: ie, do unto others as you would have do unto you, as exemplified in the UNUDHR.

    By preaching Christian dogma? Or by working through the UN to eradicate war and poverty?

    No, the UN is based on the ability of humans to conceive (in the cerebral cortex, or 'thinking brain') of universal justice, DESPITE human nature based on competitive survival instincts (in the basal gaglia, or the vestige of the pre-human 'reptilian brain').
     
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    Hey, :woot:
    No one wishes a Moaist, Cultural Revolution in China more than I do.

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    But, everyone has their own style of being a commie.
    Some common links, such as terming oneself and authoritarian regimes.
    Tito, Trotsky, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, the Kims, Uncle Ho, etc.
    all had their own interpretations of Karl Marx in practice.


    Moi :oldman:






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    Russia is not the Soviet Union. They are today a highly devout Orthodox Christian nation. The Bolsheviks who took over Russia through their propaganda and lies, hated the Russians and hated Christians. Forty million were killed, and 80 thousand churches were burned, many with people inside. From the time the Soviet Union fell, over 30 thousand churches have been built.

    Putin is a devout Christian, this is why he is hated by the atheist EU and the liberals. This is Russia's latest cathedral. It's called The Resurrection of Christ Cathedral, and it is for the Russian military and commemorates those who died in WWII fighting Nazi Germany. Russia lost 25 million people in that war, mostly civilians.


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    First, prove it!

    Second, why would that matter when a major portion of that claim is right wing leading media?
     
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    Like the opposing sides in Ireland, despite 2000 years of 'Christianity'.


    Yes..that's imperfect human nature.


    Ouch....

    FWIW, I have trouble reconciling a God of Pure Love with the massacres carried out in his name.

    Yes the self-serving lack of remorse was (and still can be) VERY human...

    I still wish Marcion's 'bible' had been adopted by the Christian church. Think of the bloodshed that would have been saved. Everyone can believe in Marcion's bible. No silly arguments about the Trinity, or whether Jesus was created by God or is co-eternal with God.



    Yes, well I regard Revelations (written c.110 AD) as a psychotic vision from someone suffering with PTSD, who had lived through the experience of seeing his 'saviour' wrongfully crucified, and knowing Jerusalem itself had been destroyed 40 years later. Hence John's 2000 year-old excruciatingly plaintive plea (the penultimate verse of the Bible); "He which testifieth these things saith: Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so come, Lord Jesus. "

    I could be wrong......that's up to God...




    What laws in the UN are contrary to your beliefs and culture?

    OTOH, the lust for power (by "certain 'elite ' financial interests"?) and a false attachment to absolute national sovereignty, forced the veto onto the UNSC in the first place, rendering it incapable of carrying out its mission to eradicate war as a means of dispute settlement between nations.
     
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    It remains to be seen how successful present day "socialism with Chinese characteristics" really is, given the level of satisfaction the Chinese have with their government, according to a recent Harvard poll >90% approval. It's a very different beast to that in Mao's little red book....

    At the present rate of development, the Chinese economy will be considerably larger than the US economy, if they can avoid conflict with the US in the next decade.
     
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    And Kemala Harris was putting young people into jail for smoking pot and turning them into criminals, even though she did so herself. As for the Muslim Turks in China? Erdogan aroused the Turkic people in all the countries where they live so they could start questioning their borders. Imagine if someone was to do that with the Hispanics in Texas and California? How would we react?
     
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    Thanks for these pictures.
    Church architecture - and church ritual - is always stunning when it is manifested at this level of commitment.
     
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    Apologies and reparations?
     
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    Eradication of the black ghettos plus an above-poverty job guarantee is what is required, not empty apologies.

    That means the present inadequate, obsolete, global neoliberal economic system which mostly serves vested interests has to go.
     
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    It's what they think they wanted. Remember these foolish overgrown children actually think globalism and global equality will mean everyone else comes up to meet them in middle class (or above) land. They have no conception that it means they'll be plummeting down to meet the Third World at just above subsistence level. If they understood that, they'd be ardent Conservatives and avowed Capitalists.

    The absurdist vanity of these well fed idiots means they never extrapolate, evaluate, or consider - any of it. Imagine being so foolish as to believe that seven billion humans can all enjoy the same freedoms and lifestyle of a comfortable American living in Portland, Oregon.
     
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    1) So you're planning to force black people to live where and how you want them to live? Cool.

    2) Looks like you're still wanting to force people to work, too. Extra cool.
     
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    You forgot a dash of NK. Obama started the 'Glorious Leader' ball rolling for America, in being the first President the people declared too Saintly to criticise.
     
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    Not in God's name, but in the use of His name for their own self or national aggrandizement. Big difference!


    In pagans or atheists yes, a lack of remorse would be understandable. But not in those who picked up their Cross and sacrificed their lives to free the Holyland from the Seljuks Turks. They should have confessed their sins and done penance. This is why it was so surprising.

    How can you judge the beliefs of others, when you have no idea what their experiences are?


    Well since you say so, then it must be so. I bow to your superior knowledge - or should I say wisdom? :worship:




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    How can'st one reason
    where knowledge is not,
    when reasoning itself
    requires a lot - Jeannette

     
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    The 'elites' believe the world cannot sustain more than 800 million people, so what are they planning to do with the rest of us in their globalist one world paradise?
     
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    When was the last famine in China?
    Yup. Red China is that successful.


    If it isn't a proverb
    it should be

    Heaven is not a Democracy
    and
    Democracy is not Heaven




    Moi :oldman:
    Nationalist





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    Job guarantees?
     
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    Not gonna happen until Black people
    choose to reside in an integrated neighborhood.
     
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    Yes it is. Try getting your desired result without it.
     
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    Yes, he thinks people will magically be eager to work (and keep working, forever) if offered a nice job.
     
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