The U.N. ,Democrats, and their plan for America

Oh, good grief.

That's just Trump showing up and taking credit. He didn't do a thing, we were close the day he became president. And yes, he did do other things related to energy, but not things I'd want to brag about.

We shepherded other agreements. You got your propaganda wrong, the claim is peace. Which he did not get.

He was one of the worst presidents in history, most historians already say he was the worst. Which is saying something.

 

I'll stop right after you do.

Which I don't think you will..

Besides this is one of those goofy threads.

 

Oh horse ****, give the man his due.

 

According to the Epoch Times, all the data, including names, addresses, phone numbers, etc. collected by the Voter Integrity Project for fraud, will be delivered to the FBI as requested.

Watch out? ​

You might get caught?​

 

And the Chinese people, how do they feel about the enslavement?

Whatever benefits China gains from Russia, would have gone to the EU if the Germans didn't lick the soles of their masters, and act like idiots. That idiocy will carry them right into WWIII.

 

Freedom is relative.

They are freer than they were under Mao. About as free as the Russians are, give or take a bit.

The Europeans wouldn't have moved into Siberia in numbers.

I do hope, for once, you aren't speaking for Putin..

 

Epoch Time is Falun Gong.

But I admire chutzpah, a paywall at a kook website, that's a new one, at least for me.

 

Give the facts their due.

Not that you will...

 

What lockdowns? America hasn't really had any.

 

Nope. Plenty of Commies aren't interested in Big Govt, much less authoritarianism. Commie-ness is a mode of living - an economic model. It's discrete from politics. Commies can be ultra conservative, or the opposite.

Private ownership is actually fundamental to collectivism (Commie-ness). It can't be done without full and unencumbered ownership.

 

Might start one now!

 

Dunno. There have many many famines in China's 4000 year history (same as all around the world, in the last 4 millenia), so what's your point?

Fact is in the last 4 decades since the adoption of "socialism with Chinese characteristics", China has lifted more people out of poverty than in world history, while creating billionaires at a faster rate and building more public infrastructure than anywhere else in the world.

What's it with your 'commie" hang-up?

 

If the Chinese are moving into Siberia as you say - which I don't know if it's true, then it's because that's where the Chinese industries are. But Russia's development of its massive wealth didn't have to go to China. It could have been shared with the EU, that is if they didn't want to impose their idiotic laws on others.

One has to give Poland and Hungary credit for sticking to their guns and retaining their self respect and sovereignty, and refused to go along with the EU's globalist and liberal idiocies - even though George Soros that great 'humanitarian', (and I say it sarcastically), gave Merkel his directives and wants them punished.

 

Yes we have. The only restaurants that have survived are the ones specializing in deliveries. I feel bad for the young people who were making a great deal of money as waiters and waitresses, and now have absolutely nothing. Many of them have children to support and they don't know what to do.

A lot of retail stores have also closed because they can't afford the rent. Some are being bought up by the large corporations, which I believe was the globalist intent and part of the Great Reset. Oh that's right, I forgot, it's all a conspiracy theory.

 

And the morally and economically correct thing to do.

Morally, because it saves lives (compare Australia - pop.25 million - with its total lock-downs and c.1000 deaths; compare with the US - pop. c.330 million, and covid deaths c. 260,000. (should only be c.14,000 at the same rate of covid deaths in Australia).

Economically? Australia started out pretty well by government funding everyone who had lost their job; so did the US initially, but the food queues in the US are now egregious, despite minimal lock-downs.

Meanwhile FYI, the US and Australian federal governments (via their respective treasuries and reserve banks) COULD simply change the digits in the bank accounts of idled workers, to enable continuation of extended lock-downs of the non-essential economy for the duration of the pandemic, without borrowing the money from the private sector.

So a quarter of a million lives - and growing - have been sacrificed on the altar of neoliberal economic orthodoxy, in the US.

And in Australia, the orthodox neoliberal toads (turds) are already screaming about the covid-rescue government debt that "will be a burden on our children" .

 

I did. You don't care you have your own.

 

Did you read my reply to your question re the job guarantee?

 

Not all of it.

 

I can understand why.

Money is power; so the powerful want to keep you in the dark re its real nature and mode of creation...

They are succeeding admirably....

 

If you say so ... News outlets are claiming widespread lockdowns. Are folks traveling in and out of the country regularly .. conferences started back up in Vegas and every other location.


Stay-at-home orders across the country
What each state is doing — or not doing — amid widespread coronavirus lockdowns.https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/here-are-stay-home-orders-across-country-n1168736

 

In some cases - but not all - and we are not finished yet -

 

Well of course public sector money creation* is a necessity, to provide the jobs which the private sector cannot provide (if it is to make a profit, which it must). *using the currency-issuing capacity of national currency-issuing governments, which have their own treasury and reserve bank.

It's not magic. eg China poured more concrete in the years 2010 - 2013 after the GFC than the US in the entire 20th century (google it) , AND built the world's largest high-speed rail network AND created billionaires at a faster rate than any other country AND achieved satisfaction levels with government > 90% (recent Harvard poll), with very little unemployment...people are willing to work if the reward is there.

 

Apparently Dem states are more likely to go for lock-downs than Repub. states, yes; but that merely means the entire country will in effect be wholly open because without strict border controls, this highly contagious virus will soon find enough people to cause an explosion in covid cases even in the so-called lock-down states.

And as for being 'not finished yet' I look forward to the next covid recue package to be passed by congress to deal with the jobless....but I won't hold my breathe...

 

If the world falls into a depression - which it will because of the Covid lockdowns, do you have any idea how many millions of people will fall below poverty levels and die? Of course that might be the intent of the ideologues since they believe the end justifies the means. I wouldn't doubt it.

How can people who are willing to commit such heinous crimes on humanity over an ideology of their making, be psychologically competent to be the decisive factor on what is best for humanity?

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Yeah, I think so too!
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Those Trump rallies were certainly super covid-spreader events, now coming home to roost with daily deaths spiking into the 2000's again.

But as always you have no understanding of present day macroeconomics in our modern economically and environmentally connected world, BECAUSE you are wedded to the neoliberal nightmare based on out-dated classical liberalism. and its companion classical economics.

Money is power, and the powerful don't want you to understand either the nature of money nor how it is created.

In fact sovereign currency issuing governments with their own treasury and reserve bank, can create money just as private banks do.

No conspiracy theory required. See my post #222 above, re government support for people laid off during the pandemic.

But speaking of conspiracies, I saw a film on JFK recently: its seems the CIA were involved in his assassination. (The film presented a truly remarkable series of coincidences involving the secret service preparations for NOT defending the president on that day in Dallas. Apparently Kennedy was planning opening channels to the USSR to reduce tensions; the CIA had (and has) friends in the US military industrial complex who stood to lose big-time if Kennedy achieved his goals.

China is now facing the same presumed 'right' of US global hegemony.....