THE UKRAINIAN ARMY HAS BEEN DEFEATED. WHAT’S LEFT IS MOP-UP

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  1. Bob Newhart

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    You brought it up. Maybe you should stick you own advice then.
     
  2. ToughTalk

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    Tatars in Crimea,
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_Tatars

    and you can look into Stalin's history...specifically Holodomor.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

    I don't even have to talk about the present day genocide on Ukraine.

    Not really hard.
     
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  3. Esau

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    Yes, NATO has been widely condemned for that aggressive act, most notably by their own, United Nations.
     
  4. Esau

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    This guy clearly has no clue about Albanians.
     
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    NATO didn't attack. Russia did. Gees.
     
  6. Esau

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    Libya didn't attack. NATO did. So it's ok for NATO to cross continents attacking sovereign nations but not ok for Russia to defend its border?!?!

    Smh. Unbelievable.
     
  7. ToughTalk

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    Nobody was firing missiles into Russia last I checked. It is NOT ok for a nuclear powered nation to invade/conquer and genocide the people of a neighboring sovereign state.

    I had to explain that to you? SMH.
     
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  8. Esau

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    Yeh Idid, as a comparison between what Russia is doing and what USA did. That's all that needs to be known without going off on illogical tangents that suggest isupport genocide of native Americans. Idont support genocide of any nation. Smh.
     
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  9. Esau

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    What did native Americans ever do to the European colonizers to justify taking their land?

    Well I'll tell you what the Ukraine did, they were killing ethnic Russians in the DONBASS region.
     
  10. Esau

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    Do you really want me to throw your own argument back in your face? "Oh, the Indians were killing and warring eachother before we got there, so it's justified to takeover"

    Looks like Putin used your strategy, therefore he's innocent, right?

    Ring any bells?
     
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  11. ToughTalk

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    "What about america!"

    "America dropped two nukes. I guess we can just give every nuclear power 2 freebies!" - Esau

    Nobody in the modern era is all that proud of the history of the United States, but the global community has kind of evolved past the 1600's and as such we moved past the entire "let's invade, conquer and genocide!" Especially after the whole WW2 fiasco.

    SMH...It's never anything different with you people. Corner you on the Ukraine/Russia situation and all you have is the "what about America?" song.

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    Yes sorry 1968. Typo!
     
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    Lennin and Stalin killed millions. But the Czars were brutal too - look at what happened in the 1780's with Crimea and the liquidation of ethnic groups there.
     
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    What the US wants is a truly united Europe, both east and west in a pan Asian-European model London to Vladivostok.
     
  15. Monash

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    Again, read some history 'Colonialism' wasn't invented in the 19th century! Nor was slavery or mass warfare and conquest. All you do is cherry pick a particular era and start harping on about how 'bad' it was while ignoring everything that happened before or after. That's not how the study of history or anthropology works. Once again - Western civilization did not invent colonization. And YOU diminish the suffering of all its other victims when you ignore that fact. Your basically fixated!

    Virtually every major culture on Earth has engaged in colonization during their expansion phase. The Assyrians, the Greeks, Rome, the Moslem Caliphates, most of the Chinese dynasties, they all did it. As they expanded they subjugated surrounding nations and then sent in members of their 'own' people to 'run' things.

    It also doesn't matter that this is a mostly American forum with a lot of people jabbering on about US politics 'the right does this or the left did that' blah, blah, blah. Yes I get it. Point is though it also has a number of different sub forums which people from other regions can post in. So if you want to rant on about the evils of slavery in America fine. Just do everyone a favor and confine it to the America sub forum or the history sub forum. This is Ukrainian war thread.
     
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    Slavery was found in absolutely every culture on Earth. The one thing that makes western culture unique is they actually ended slavery. Fact.
     
  17. Monash

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    Point to one single single post where I ever made a claim even approaching that. You wont of course just like you never told me where all the Russian tanks are since according to you Oryx is a propaganda site not an analytics site.

    You never respond when put on the spot. Your like a pigeon. You fly in to a thread, crap on it and fly off again leaving nothing of value. Off you go birdie.
     
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  18. Esau

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    USA stole A HUGE AMOUNT OF ARABLE LAND that was THOUSANDS OF MILES AWAY yet you want to cry and whine about Russia protecting its border. Do us a favour and keep your hypocrisy to yourself, thanks.
     
  19. Esau

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    ....that they invented race based chattel slavery (RBCS).

    Stick to the topic please.
     
  20. USVet

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    False. Do you know anything about this history of Afghanistan or the caste system in India? It seems not.
     
  22. Esau

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    It's not false. Get back on topic please.
     
  23. Monash

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    :no: Actually what I'm interested in is watching the progress of the first major conventional war of the 20th century with the potential to directly involve nuclear armed States. But for some reason you insist of interrupting with irrelevant points about white imperialism. Your like an annoying TV add that constantly interrupts my favorite show. And Dear God! If you could just stay on topic it wouldn't matter. Because you usually add little in the way of useful (factual) information about the progress of the war anyway so your generally pretty easy to ignore. But no! You have to insist on spoiling everyone's viewing pleasure with your promos for your own special brand of 'new and improved White Colonialism'. Try some today.'

    As I keep telling you - there are other channels, sorry threads for that. Just go away and leave the war threads alone.
     
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  24. Esau

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    what's wrong, you don't like it when ppl expose USA hypocrisy? How about you start questioning the morality of NATO for once?!?! You know, getting your own house in order before passing judgement. You lost a good man in Trump, shape up!

    USA has been invading, bombing and pillaging ACROSS THE GLOBE for the entire last century yet you want to cry and whine about Putin protecting his border?

    Give us a break and take your USA Arms Industry sales pitch to the humour sub forum.
     
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  25. Esau

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    Bro, you come across as guilt ridden about your skin colour when nobody is talking about skin colour. Freudian slip? It's all white this, white that lol.
     
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