THE UKRAINIAN ARMY HAS BEEN DEFEATED. WHAT’S LEFT IS MOP-UP

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  1. Thedimon

    Thedimon Well-Known Member

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    Well, yeah - they are cutting the armor from cardboard boxes with scissors. What did you think the “cutting edge” meant?
    :oldman:
     
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    No, it pops like that because of where and how the ammo is stored inside the tank. It's a design flaw that their tanks have had since Eisenhower.
     
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    It's basically your right to live your life on your own terms with as little interference from government bureaucrats as possible. Why does that not fit in a 'modern' world?
     
  4. Zorro

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    Good questions. And yes, it should, Ukraine has Russian tanks. Maybe the tank busters being supplied to the Ukrainians are better than what Russia has? But, more likely, Ukraine hasn't been engaged in a lot of tank warfare, that takes stable supply lines and logistics that they do not have. Ukraine is using more of a guerrilla operation with hand carried, shoulder fired and drones, and they are pretty damned effective.

    The War for Donbass might see some tank battles: https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/04/15/tanks-heavy-weapons-ukraine-russia-nato-putin-offensive/
     
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  5. Thedimon

    Thedimon Well-Known Member

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    Russians sent mobile crematoriums into Ukraine. :lol:
     
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    Zorro Well-Known Member

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    I'd say the S in Larry S. Johnson stands for "Stupid".

    The case of the flying tank turret

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    Look way up there over the flames, higher still, yes, that's the Michael Jordan of tank turrets. And this Russian Tank was blown to kingdom come way way behind enemy lines, in areas of Ukraine supposedly pacified by Russia since 2014... ooops!
    There is a great video of this at the link.
    You Think?

    How are you feeling about this topic title these days?
     
  7. Zorro

    Zorro Well-Known Member

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    Are you sure about this topic title?

    Ukraine: We've pushed Russia across its border in Kharkiv counteroffensive

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    Has Ukraine actually pushed the Russians back across the Russian border in Kharkiv?
     
  8. Nemesis

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    Is the mop up finished yet?
     
  9. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    Did we ever get our captured general back?
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Possibly.

    It appears MSM has completely stopped talking about Ukraine. That seems to have coincided with the surrender at Azovstal.
     
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    That's your guide? If news sources "stop talking about it"? Whoa...that's absurd on its face.

    BTW, you obviously don't pay much attention to the news--it's all over the place. I suppose you think Benghazi and the "stolen election" are the big news items of the day.
     
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    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    CNN is still doing live updates: https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-05-21-22/index.html

    Be sure to check back regularly for all the latest :)

    For instance:

    14 min ago
    As Russia's invasion of Ukraine approaches its 3-month mark, here's what's happened in key areas

    From CNN's Joshua Berlinger

    It is nearly three months since Russia invaded Ukraine – a 12-week period in which Russian forces have wrought devastation on the country and its people, resulting in death on a vast scale and causing millions to flee.

    But the invasion has not been the military success Moscow hoped, and is now deep into its second phase.

    The bulk of fighting has moved to the east after failed Russian advances in central Ukraine. The Ukrainians are focusing on retaking some key areas closer to the Russian border, while Moscow is seeing its troops beaten back in a few key battles.

    Western aid is also flowing into Ukraine, NATO is set to be strengthened as Nordic countries seek to join, and the first Russian soldier accused of war crimes has stood trial.

    Here’s what has happened in several key areas since the war began.

    Donbas

    After weeks of intense fighting, Ukraine’s eastern Donbas region is “completely destroyed,” Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said Thursday.

    He accused Russia of a “deliberate and criminal attempt to kill as many Ukrainians as possible” after a village in Chernihiv was hit with missiles, leaving many dead.

    Officials in the region say the front line is being shelled “day and night,” with Russian forces attempting to break through Ukrainian lines.

    A NATO military official told CNN Wednesday that the alliance expects something of a stalemate over the next few weeks. But the official said NATO believes momentum has shifted significantly in favor of Ukraine and the debate within NATO circles is now over whether it is possible for Kyiv to retake Crimea and the Donbas territories seized by Russia and Russian-backed separatists, respectively, in 2014.

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    Kharkiv

    Ukrainian forces have beaten back Russia’s assaults in Ukraine’s second largest city of Kharkiv, and advanced toward the border in several places north and east of the city.

    Ukrainian officials said last week they were liberating villages on the outskirts of the city. Their advances led to the symbolic and embarrassing expulsion of the Kremlin’s forces back to their own border while posing the strategic threat of cutting Russia’s supply lines into Ukraine and its forces further south in Donbas.

    Anastasia Paraskevova recently returned to her home in Kharkiv for the first time since fleeing the city two months ago. It had been under constant bombardment since then until Russian forces were repelled.

    Paraskevova said overall the experience was good.

    “The city was much more alive. People were walking the streets. And some shops were working. It felt like some life was back, much better than it was when I was here in March.”

    Kherson

    Every day, hundreds, or even thousands, of people are trying to flee the Russian-occupied region of Kherson in southern Ukraine.

    The city has been under Russian control since early in the invasion. Ukrainians are leaving for many reasons: to avoid being detained or to escape the heavy-handed actions of Russian forces, or because of the chronic shortages of medicine and other basics in Kherson, which fell under Russian control soon after the invasion.

    Last week, a convoy of about 1,000 vehicles tried to leave Kherson. The Russians ultimately let the convoy move in batches – but only after holding it in one place for most of the day.​
     
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  13. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yes, observing what the media says, when it says it and how it says it is how I operate. I examine and judge propaganda to discover how they want me to think.

    How and what they say, or how and what they cover, reveals certain things. When they stop talking about certain events they've been pushing intensely for months, there is meaning of some sort.
     
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    Durandal

    Yes, CNN is one of the MSM outlets I don't watch. Of all, it seems geared to the bottom-feeding observers.

    Glad to hear they're still pushing the official narrative. If you're happy, I'm happy. :lol:
     
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    Oh. That's why you're consistently wrong then.
     
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    Or the opposite....
     
  17. Nemesis

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    Ohh. Good one, my information-shy amigo. :confusion:
     
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    Gee whiz this guy really knows what he's talking about!

    OPERATION MOP UP

    OOPS: Russia shoots down their own advanced jet just weeks after delivery.

    "Russia took delivery on a handful of advanced Su-34M fighter bombers late last month, and one has already been shot down over Ukraine. It wasn’t Ukrainian forces who managed to down the twin-seat jet, however… It was Russia’s own air defenses."

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    Had fewer than 10, now they have fewer than 9.​

    "It’s war. These things happen. But I can’t help but note that these nine or ten of Russia’s most advanced fighter-bombers are variations on a 1990 design based on the Su-27 airframe that first flew in 1977."
     
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    Trying to convince yourself that Russia is too weak to hold the territory it has taken by rambing nonsensical gibberish to yourself is kind of silly mate. When did you think the F-16 first flew .. a plane and those of similar antiquity .. that make up the vast majority of our air force .. and our new planes don't work ...

    That Russian AA missiles work .. and work very well, even against their own planes .. is not a mark in favor of the USA technology .. on the contrary .. our AA missiles are not very good .. unable to hit old Russian Migs -- never mind the new stuff.
     
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    Now if that isn't Pot calling Kettle Black :) coupled with no ability to make coherent argument.
     
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    I've seen a number videos of Russian tanks get blown up by tank mines. Doesn't look like too much fun to me.

     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    War is seldom fun mate .. things get blown up :)
     
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    Sure, but the OP makes it sound like not a big deal and that the Russkies are just mopping up.
     
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    Their war coverage has been top notch.
     

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