The Universe has always existed (deal with it).

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  1. AltLightPride

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    It's true in this case, but only because of time dilation, which is the key factor. Not because muh cutting things in half XD


    Cutting time in half proves nothing.

    Otherwise you'll have to admit that you have always existed since you can cut the time in half since the day you were born, then cut it in half again and so on.

    So how did the universe always exist but you did not always exist yourself?


    There is no paradox since infinite sums are a perfectly understood subject in math and a lot of infinite sums have a finite result. Arrows reach their targets both in math and in the real world.
     
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    I don't know if this helps, but I happened across an article having to do with the big bang a few days ago... The big bang never happened and we've known for 40 years...

    The Big Bang Wasn't The Beginning, After All
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2017/09/21/the-big-bang-wasnt-the-beginning-after-all/
     
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    If everything that exists is the Universe and I am in the Universe, that means the matter and energy that is me has existed forever. My consciousness may be temporal as that may transfer to another form of energy after my body gives out, but that doesn't mean the energy and matter goes away.
     
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    Paladin: Genesis 1:1 is not referring to the actual Universe as in planets, Stars, meteors, etc., it is referring to a world and an ideology that was being placed over an existing world.
     
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    time depends on the Observer
     
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    Just a thought!
     
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    No No No. Time is the measurement of distance; how long it took to get from point A to point B. Time is nothing more than measurement.
     
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    Time flows at different speeds for different observers. Moving close to the speed of light or being in proximity to large quantities of mass makes time flow slower for you. It's called the theory of relativity for that reason :)
     
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    Time does what for whom? Not at all, thirty minutes is thirty minutes, fifteen minutes is fifteen minutes. One hour is one hour. What I want to know is, "Where did you gather the notion that time varies and is variable?"
     
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_dilation
     
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    You do realize that Wikipedia is not a reliable being that anyone can edit the content on that website, don’t you? Knowing that I asked you were you gathered the notion that time varies and is variable; I ever suspected that you would offer a wiki link. I asked, and I received.
     
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    Wikipedia is perfectly reliable on science.

    I have a PhD in physics.
     
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    What is the rate of travel of light? What is the rate of travel for sound? What is the rate of travel of the rational speed of the following planets: Mercury, Uranus, and Pluto? How many layers of skin does an Original person have? How many sides are there of the human body? How many bodily openings are there of a female? Does a male have the same openings as a female? What is the diameter of the Sun? You sand that you have a PhD in physics, so you should know that answer to all of the questions that I asked.
     
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    Thats an interesting interpretation/perspective. You might be right.
     
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    So smart of you to ask a list of things that anyone can look up on the Internet, and that requires no reasoning ability or understanding whatsoever. Gives a pretty good idea of your conception of intelligence : learn stuff by heart and don't think. With your definition, a 10 year old kid has a PhD in Physics because he can use Google.

    OK listen. You want to act like an arrogant, ignorant ******bag? Fine. Just don't expect to be called anything else.

    I don't waste my time with ignorant people who are proud of their ignorance and have no interest in learning anything new.
     
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    I did not get those questions from google or the answers for the questions. I posted the question to see if you know the answers to the questions that I posed and as it is, you would rather attempt to insult instead of answering the questions.

    I will give the answers to all of the questions myself:

    Light travels at eh rate of speed of 186,000 miles per second.

    Sound travels at the rate of speed of 1,120 feet per second

    The rate of speed for Mercury, Uranus, and Pluto is 1,037 1/3 miles per hour like all other planets.

    An Original person has 7 layers of skin

    The human body has six sides

    A female has ten bodily openings; the male has nine bodily openings.

    The diameter if the Sun is 853,000 miles
     
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    In his book Stephen Hawking's Universe Dr. Hawking elaborated on an infinite number of Big Bang events going back to eternity in the past.

    That was published in June of 1989.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Hawking's_Universe
     

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