The US Plot to Exploit Venezuela

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  1. 61falcon

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    Russia is putting it's money on Maduro!!
     
  2. Horhey

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    That is not what I posted.
     
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    Donald Trump is illigitimate. He got fewer votes than Hillary Clinton. Hillary rigged the Primary against Bernie Sanders. The entire 2016 election is illigitimate. Nancy Pelosi should declare herself President and it should be recognized by Russia and China and the rest of the international community.
     
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    No. Saudi Arabia is not in crisis.
    Correct.

    Correct again. But fake elections don't count.

    Most likely nonsense.

    Well you did in Afganistan and Ukraine but I haven't seen all that much of it.

    Thanks for the insult. You are amazingly naive. There we are even.
     
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    Trump won according to rules that are 200+ years old and very well known.
     
  6. Ethereal

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    The Venezuelan oil industry needs foreigners like you to mind your own business.
     
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    Yes. They're called neocons.
     
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    So if someone rapes a woman and gets away with it, does that prove her body doesn't belong to her? According to your asinine logic, it does.

    Actually, yes. It's called international laws and norms. Venezuela is a sovereign country. The resources within their territory belong to the people in Venezuela. Your attempt to justify thievery is deplorable.

    The natives who were driven off the land are all dead now.
     
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    Your attempt to justify the mass murder of women and children is sickening beyond belief.
     
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    According to your logic, we should.
     
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    No one is justifying anything. We're just looking at the hard reality.
     
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    Yes, they have. Yet they are still a socialist economy. So, are you going to overthrow them, too?

    Or, here's an idea... maybe you should just mind your own affairs inside your own country and stop obsessing over what other countries do inside their own borders.
     
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    The hard reality is that Saudi Arabia, a US ally, is committing murder on an unimaginable scale by intentionally starving millions of women and children. There is NOTHING you can say to rationalize that.
     
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    You offer nothing but a propagandist's talking points.

    No system is perfect, and none is perfectly managed by imperfect humans. Both Maduro and Chavez were elected in accordance with international laws. Though invited to witness and be present at Venezuela's last election, EU and UN leadership refused to send representatives. The plot was thickening.
     
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    Why don't you take it up with Iran or Al qaeda?
     
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    To which fake elections are you referring? The ones in Russia whereby our man Yeltsin was installed?
     
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    Why don't you stop trying to absolve Saudi Arabia of its horrific atrocities?
     
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    Because I have known them for over 60 years.
     
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    It needs investment and competent management. it has had neither for years and Venezuela's economy is in freefall as a result. I'm sure there are Venezuelans who can manage competently (though clearly not the current ones), but the money is going to have to come from outside.
     
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    Nobody cares how long you've known the bloodthirsty tyrants who rule Saudi Arabia. They are guilty of committing horrific crimes against millions of innocent people.
     
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    That's for Venezuelans to decide, not meddlesome outsiders.
     
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    Nonsense.they have shown huge restraint in a decade of attacks.
     
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    Starving millions of innocent people is the exact opposite of restraint. Your endless apologia for the world's most regressive and brutal dictatorship is quite simply disgusting.
     
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    No we aren't. Their Congress declared him President as it is in their constitution.
     
  25. Ethereal

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    Who cares what their congress declared or what their constitution says? It's not our country, therefore none of our business.
     

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