"The US Training Ukrainian Troops for Horrific Act of Terrorism in the Donbass that is a Crime Again

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  1. Margot2

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    Prince no longer owns Blackwater.
     
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    Now you know about Pravda.. The US has been helping Ukraine clean up nuclear wast since 2017.
     
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    Not just Americans, but all people -- or the majority -- of all countries normally believe that their government and its armed agencies (military, secret intelligence services) are basically good and benevolent and do whatever they do as a defensive response to foreign aggression. (I qualify this statement with 'normally' because sometimes countries fracture and you get mass rebellions against the government.)

    If you hear charges that your soldiers, in a foreign war, massacred a village of innocent civilians, threw babies in the air and bayonetted them... you'll first dismiss the charges as enemy propaganda, then say they were exaggerated, then say the soldiers were wrong but provoked, and approve of only the very lightest token punishment for them, if there is any punishment at all. Russians and Americans are identical in this respect.

    I think it was Leo Szilard, one of the 'fathers' of the atomic bomb, who observed that if the Germans had got nuclear weapons first, and dropped two of them on American cities, but then lost the war anyway ... that the Germans responsible for that decision would undoubtedly have been hung as war criminals.

    The people in Maidan were not fascists, but were Ukrainians tired of corruption, wanting to live in a modern European country, and not be a satellite of corrupt gangster-run Russia. They should have waited until the next election, though. There is a fascist movement in Ukraine, but it gets little support at the ballot box. Ukrainian non-fascist ultra-nationalists need to be repudiated by Ukrainian democrats, who should make every effort to accommodate their Russian citizens, and who should also decisively reject the idea of Ukraine joining NATO or any other anti-Russian alliance. The eastern Ukraine should be offered the right of self-determination. Crimea was never Ukrainian.
     
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    Crazy fascists in the Pentagon can easily go to war crimes. Remember, for example, how Americans used napalm in Vietnam, or remember how Americans deliberately infect Peruvians with syphilis. Therefore, from crazy fascists in the Pentagon, you can expect everything.
     
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    I read the text. Is there any plan to stop this terorist attack? Any statement from Kremlin?
     
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    I think they know that. It is very important that many people know this.
     
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    Yeah. And beyond that, we are talking about ddumping something in a river? What training is required for that?
     
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    The only plan should be to stop the convoys entering Ukraine.....that's the real terrorist attack!:).

    This is fake news or some false flag!
     
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    For fake people and trolls - this is fake news. For normal people - this is the truth.
     
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    Pravda="truth"??

    If everything was "Pravda" in the former SU....it wouldn't have dissolved the way it did.


    It was all built on LIES!
     
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    For the sovoks, truth is whatever they're told by the Party.

    Here's some truth for Grevzi:



    They do a word-play based on "Единая Россия" (United Russia), Putinka's party. They call it Едимая Россия and, in the title, едим Россию (eating Russia). They use the popular children's cartoon Маша и Медведь (Masha and Bear) as a basis for this little parody cartoon.

    Lots of likes and positive comments!
     
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    Eat cookies: [​IMG]
     
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    Oh boy.....I'm so afwaid, heavens to mergatroid!:hiding:
     
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    I wouldn't worry too much about it. I'm sure the Russians are fully aware of everything going on in Ukraine, and will act accordingly. When they were ready to attack during the World Cup in Russia, all Vladimir Putin needed to say was if they did, it would be the end of Ukraine and that was the end of that.

    The truth is though, that Ukraine's army is in a state of total collapse so that other than its mercenaries, the only thing it has is terrorism and assassinations. Well it does keep Russia on its toes, but let's see how long its patience will last.
     
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    The problem is, for a few years now we have had a dozen or so Russians (or at least those acting in defense of Russia) that have come here and "promised" some crazy/insane action to take place against Russia.

    We have seen everything from a Putin assassination, to 'false flag' projects where Russia will be hurt in whatever random way.

    If it happens, it is good that we have it on record like this and we will all rise up in anger with you.

    However, if it doesn't, will you admit Pravda is pretty much a media outlet that builds giant flat out lies like this?
     
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    There have been quite a few atrocities that preceded this, and that are not being mentioned - like the continuous bombardment of civilian homes, cutting off the electricity etc., etc. - not to mention assassinations, and terrorist attacks. Frankly I wouldn't put anything past the mafias and Nazis in Kiev.

    There is a difference though between the two. The mafias are in power so they can steal to fill their pockets, and the Nazis want to purify and glorify their super race by grabbing Russian lands. Of course they hate one another - and fear one another as well.
     
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    ….Golly.....I is convinced.
     
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    Russia isn't a country.....it's a bad diagnosis.
     
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    Viktor Krum???
     
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    Had to look this gentleman (Mr Krum) up on the Web. There is a resemblance, no question!
     
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