The Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS)

My apologies, I didn't realize I was working with such limitations. I can break it down for you.
You provided everything except what would possibly be their motivation to under report numbers.
(Its the highlighted part)

Yeah, those questions are called examples. lol But you answer away. lol

Yeah, uh, Its was just a question. Its not the Declaration of Independence or a declaration of war, just your average open ended sentence. I doesn't carry enough weight to include a conspiracy and you don't need years of abuse or a victim mentality to understand it. Just an 8th grade education will do.

But if you have concluded that your every utterance is deserving of such notability, you need more creativity and less exaggeration. Hope that helps

They have no reason to misrepresent their numbers like Democrats do. It gives them no advantage on anything. I don't believe they are exaggerating anything.

 

Its good to see someones state is making the right attempt to be honest

 

I am not disputing or confirming the reported cases. I am making it clear that this information is never included in Covid claims coming from the media. An absolute blackout meaning they are only interested in pushing a single narrative.

I believe this is what you're looking for.
https://openvaers.com/

Thats because the US also reports over 42 million cases. Brazil is 21 million and everyone else is under 7 million. So is everyone on the planet lying or is it just the US?
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/

No, I was making a factual claim. Unvaccinated who have already had covid have higher immunity than vaccinated. And this vaccine is not everything they try and make it out to be. While the US isn't reporting vaccinated deaths do to the vaccine or Covid after vaccination accurately, reports out of Israel tell quite the different picture. It is the largest world study to date with over 85% of their population vaccinated with the Pfiser vaccine. I won't spoil it for you. Its a short read but I am sure you will find it supports a lot of what I have posted.
https://www.science.org/content/art...er-immunity-vaccine-vaccination-remains-vital

I agree to a point. The vaccine isn't as protective as claimed and it needs constant stimulation from additional boosters. Not to mention it also comes with its own risk to include ling term effects we have no clue about.

 

No, it means someone is lying. Our reported numbers are worse than countries without medical attention. Viruses don't work like this.

 

Just assumptions on my part from that graph alone — non-vaccinated make up a substantially larger portion of cases, admits and deaths but if you are admitted while being vaccinated the percent of deaths are over represented.

I wonder if that has to do with contributing illnesses or age?

 

You haven’t proven that numbers have been over reported. The US numbers are on par with other nations making similar precautions. If they are over reported it is likely due to what causes most fraud — money.

I was just illustrating that whining about open ended questions was just a desperate attempt to protect your false narrative. Carry on

So that’s where you stopped? Makes sense.

You believe China and India (and Russia) are telling the truth but the entire rest of the word is lying? …

Really, no words.

So you believe all of our government instructions, all American medical associations, hospital networks, American researchers and scientists are all in a vast conspiracy but India and China are only displaying facts?

 

Confirmed cases claimed
Peru 2,167
Bosnia and Herzegovina 227,579
North Macedonia 187,068
Hungary 818,231
Bulgaria 484,546
Czechia 1,686,364
Brazil 21,247,667
Argentina 5,241
Colombia 4,942,249
Moldova 282,650
Slovakia 402,922
Georgia 595,926
Paraguay 459,665
Belgium 1,224,885
Italy 4,638,516
Slovenia 283,770
Mexico 3,573,044
Tunisia 700,400
Croatia 392,248
USA¹ 42,088,118
India 33,478,419
Turkey 6,874,917
United Kingdom¹ 7,430,162
Poland 2,898,299
Chile 1,647,746
Ecuador 507,020
Romania 1,152,052
Tanzania 1,367
Laos 19,399
Burundi 14,189
China 108,038
New Zealand 4,095
Burkina Faso 14,052
Niger 5,964
Singapore 77,804
Chad 5,029
South Sudan 11,831
Eritrea 6,674
Congo (Kinshasa) 56,463
Benin 21,450
Nigeria 202,191
Tajikistan 17,484
Sierra Leone 6,392
Central African Republic 11,340
Cote d'Ivoire 59,153
Papua New Guinea 18,968
Togo 24,655
Mali 15,074
Guinea 30,271
Nicaragua 13,025
Congo (Brazzaville) 13,701
Uzbekistan 168,938
Madagascar 42,898
Ghana 125,565
Angola 52,644
Ethiopia 333,698
Australia 88,710
Mauritius 14,735
South Korea 289,263
Cameroon 85,414
Haiti 21,368
Yemen 8,718
Liberia 5,915
Mozambique 150,067
Sudan 38,041
Guinea-Bissau 6,080
Somalia 19,235 667
Uganda 122,277
Gabon 28,120
Timor-Leste 19,058
Kenya 246,643
Rwanda 95,503
Equatorial Guinea 11,063
Senegal 73,654 141
Malawi 61,382
Syria 30,913
Pakistan 1,227,905

The numbers speak for themselves. You can either wake up and realize the US is faking Covid numbers or you can follow the leftist idiocy.
Its your choice.

 

You don’t know any of that….it’s an opinion…

 

Claiming 42 million cases isn't an opinion
Having the largest amount of cases globally isn't an opinion
Reporting 20% of all Covid deaths globally while only having 4% of the globes population isn't opinion
You want more confirmation, look at post 57

 

I love how you so quickly jump from death to infection — there is nothing to discuss further as you blindly believe a third world nation with little medical infrastructure or reporting and a communist nation that executes scientists if they make it look bad — over your own nation (and all other developed nations).

That is one of the most absurd posts I have ever witnessed on this forum.

 

Yes, the numbers do speak for themselves….I took one at random…UK.
About 1 in 9 in the UK have been infected. About 1 in 8 in the US.

So, are you accusing the UK of also faking numbers….?

 

Yes, his numbers are rubbish…..he claims, for example that Somalia has reported over 19 million cases………..there are only 16 million people in Somalia…!

 

Again, that infection rate indicates that you have done a really crappy job of containing the virus, particularly in the early stages…! The (supposedly) most well-equipped and financed nation in history dropped the ball….

 

You noticed I posted about 50, not just China. Or did that fly right over your head? You picked out one country and came to these conclusions all by yourself?

If you can't make the connection that tries to accommodate 20% of global deaths are hosted by 4% of its population, yeah, I can see how it would be so challenging for some.

 

What tripe…..

The US also accounts for 15% of worldwide firearm deaths, yet represents, as you say, only 4% of the total population…

‘How can that be….??’ Surely it’s more ‘fake news’…..??

 

20% of cocaine users worldwide are Americans……..how could this be…?? They’re only ‘4% of the population….!!’

 

Wow, your disconnect is epic. You don't know the difference between 4% of 7.5 billion people and your cocaine theory?
And you actually posted that? Just wow

 

maybe some cocaine was the inspiration!

 

And they vote? Scariest thing I have seen thus far.

 

And live and breathe and walk amongst us ....

 

Pardon…?? There’s only one person sampling the white powder around here…and it isn’t me…

Your….cough, cough….’case’ was built around the question “how could the US be really responsible for 20% of the COVID-19 cases when we only represent 4% of the population…?….there must be some ‘faking’ of the numbers…!!”

I just gave you 2 examples of other worldwide phenomena, in which the US numbers far outweigh their proportion of the population.

15% of world firearm deaths are “hosted” (?) by 4% of its population.
20% of world cocaine use is “hosted” by 4% of its population…

Are you going to question those as well…?

No, I thought not….

 

This is literaly was has happened on covid deaths too. Suicide got lumped into covid deaths.

 

Worldwide statistics are seriously flawed, because every record keeping is different among countries. For instance, I'm puzzled as to how someone was able to calculate that the USA firearm deaths was 15% of the worldwide total given that many countries do not keep records of all types of firearm deaths, and many countries have no released firearm deaths for over a decade. Countries like Russia, Belarus, Zimbabwe, and Ukraine don't keep unintentional and suicide firearm deaths. The United States keeps immaculate statistics on gun deaths whereas countries in South and Central America, as well as the Middle East and Northern Africa, do not. Same argument applies to cocaine use among countries.

The FDA Panel that rejected booster shots for people ages 15-64 discussed the problem with Covid-19 record-keeping. One of the issues with confirmed case numbers, particularly earlier this year, is that tests were using a higher CT count that overestimates the true prevalence of infections. The same CT counts were lowered for vaccinated patients in Mid-May of 2021. A dozen Doctors and Vaccine Experts advising the FDA Panel criticized the data of the CDC, because there were many problems with the standards used. In making their decision, they utilized statistics from the UK and Israel, but still noticed similar issues with the numbers.

 

Well, that is the system that the republicans fought for

 

You're shifting topics again. We were talking about the data on VAERS, not the media. If you want to discuss how the media are reporting this, you'd need to start a thread about that.

No, that is a private website set up to provide a more user-friendly front-end to the raw VAERS data. It has literally nothing to do with your claim about CDC guidelines. If you can't link a reference to CDC guidelines saying what you alleged they do, we're going to have to assume your claim is not true.

No. I'd suggest that China isn't necessary being honest in it's reporting (based on their figures and historical fact) and that India isn't necessarily as effective in gathering the data due to practical socio-economic reasons. It is also possible that the USA data is over-reporting cases and/or deaths to some extent (intentionally or not).

My point is that the difference in the published figures from all around the world doesn't automatically prove any of these possible causes for that difference. You can't say the US figures must be significantly incorrect. You can't reach any definitive conclusion based on the numbers alone.

You are still conflating two distinct elements to create a misleading conclusion though. If you have already had COVID, you will indeed have a significantly higher resistance to contracting it again. That applies regardless of whether you're vaccinated or not. If you have the vaccination, you will have a higher resistance to COVID than if you are unvaccinated. That applied regardless of whether you've had it before or not.

The two elements are not direct related and so should not be conflated. The high resistance provided by previous infection doesn't say anything at all about the effectiveness of the vaccines.

That entirely depends on who the "they" is you're talking about. Some people oversell the vaccines, some people undersell them. The official scientific data on predicted efficacy of the vaccines from the manufacturers have been largely accurate. Some of the marketing and media coverage over played that a little. That doesn't mean the science was wrong, just that media and marketing are wrong. Note that you are essentially engaging in media and marketing here.

The need for boosters isn't about the effectiveness of a vaccine, only how long that protection lasts. That was always recognised as a likely requirement at some point. And yes, there are potential risks of longer-term side effects that have not yet been identified (though that it true of COVID itself too). No medical treatment can entirely remove risks 100%, the purpose here is to reduce the overall risk.