Discussion in 'United States' started by Gatewood, Apr 7, 2019.
Like Barr? Lol
Agree we need a new collision investigation. Mueller covered up for trump to get him to stop investigating uranium one
But Trump's henchmen weren't indicted either, or do you think Trump was a lone wolf colluder?
Then your priorities are really messed up. Presidents come and go - the corrupt Establishment remains.
You won't get any grief from me for slamming Trump - I do it all the time - and my criticisms are far worse than "conman/demagogue". This is a guy who would short contractors out of their final payment because he knew that taking him to court would cost more than the final payment so that few would go that route. This is complete lack of honesty and integrity. I could care a less about who Trump is shagging or if he likes golden showers.
Trump is a Social Darwinist. He believes it is against the "natural order' to help the lower classes - the "genetically unfit". He is an elitist who servers the elite - that the elite are where they are because of Genetic superiority - not because they inherited daddy's money. Almost all of Trumps policies are explained through this lens .. including him wanting to cut funding to the special olympic's .. then did a quick 180 due to the rapid political backlash. Trump believes that helping the poor serves only to upset the "natural order" and pollute the gene pool .. and the middle class are not much better.
I can go on and on if you like but, this will not change the fact that Trump is a symptom of the disease - not the disease itself. Trump is a part of that disease but a very small part.
The Establishment is both Red and Blue - elite politicians and bureaucrats. At the top of the food chain are the big money interests that control and/or influence foreign domestic policy. It is a pay to play system If you play - you get paid - and everyone knows it.
It is not some "cabal" or "star chamber".. there are various interests and they sometimes compete and conflict with each other. The Establishment in general does not care about "Hot Button issues" - Abortion, Immigration - Guns -Gay Marriage - and so on. The Establishment cares about money.
To understand the "disease" one needs to focus not on the disagreements between Red and Blue - but on where they agree.
You previously brought up a unanimous Senate vote on Mueller. How do you know that the Senate is not almost unanimously corrupt ?
What bar can we use ? - Mueller is perhaps not the best metric but, he is not the worst either.
How about something really crazy like - arming Al Qaeda - the 911 terrorist group- with sophisticated US technology .. surface to air missiles which can be used to take out civilian aircraft and other fancy stuff.
That would be a good metric would it not ? - meaning anyone who would support that would truly be a piece of human garbage would it not ? How much more corrupt can it get. First we will separate out those that are on this level of scum bucketry and then raise the bar a bit. Surely most should be able to hurdle this one.
Well - as luck would have it - The "Stop Arming Terrorist Act" proposed to do just that - Stop arming Al Qaeda and other Islamist Jihadist groups of the same ilk .. such as ISIS and others.
Now keep in mind that this is the "soft pedaled version" - the more you get into this the more horrific it gets. Do not hesitate to ask for more details - we can lower the bar much further than the above would suggest but, this is a pretty good bar as is.
This bill got 14 co-signers "bipartisan" in the House - out of 435. When Rand Paul introduced this bill in the Senate he got a total of ZERO co-signers.
Thank you Obama/Hillary - and fellow Establishment wonks.
Now you may be thinking .. geese - Trump has never done anything this bad. I am not so sure - I think I can top this - hard to believe as that may be.
Who knows - Mueller does what his Establishment masters tell him to do.
Last thing we need is more "Russiagate".
While the objective of investigating Trump may not initially been to remove safeguards which protect freedom of speech, information, freedom of the press .. and to engage in full on censorship - Russiagate has proven a very useful tool in the pursuit of this objective.
Uranium one had some shady money transactions - Russian donations to the Clinton foundation did it not ? Not sure if this was part of what Bernie was referring to when he said "The Clinton Foundation is a Problem"
It is interesting that one of the facebook ads - so called "Russian Propaganda" - was a pic of Bernie with the caption "The Clinton Foundation is a Problem".
Since this was "The Truth" - meaning Bernie actually said this .. calling this "Propaganda" is falsehood. Propaganda by definition involves falsehood of some kind and this was the truth.
The idea that the voter knowing "The Truth" about some candidate "harmed" our political process is Orwellian doublespeak - yet the media pundits doubled down on this narrative .. citing "Grave Threat to National Security"
Yeah man - The Voter knowing the Truth is a "grave threat to national security" so lets give this complete scum bucket a huge amount of power and do a 2 year investigation on this basis.
Right so it’s ok to leak classified info because it’s the truth?
It’s ok to blackmail people so long as it’s over the “truth?
It's just a matter of time now that the REAL investigations into what really happened and why have finally begun.
Yes from the news it seems he is going to try to replaced all the upper federal law enforcement people with men/women who are loyal not to the constitution but to himself.
Then use the federal government and laws to punish anyone in law enforcement that dare to look into him, his businesses, his family or his employees.
Sorry it not going to work out for him as there are too many people in government that take their oaths to the constitution over any fear he could generate.
Hell it would not work even if Putin would loan him some of his assassins or Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman for that matter.
You mean he's going to weaponize the Executive Branch along the same lines that Obama weaponized it -- while leftists cheered? Sweet! Do you think that Barr will declare himself to be Trump's loyal wingman like Holder openly declared it in regards to Obama . . . and again while leftists cheered?
I know that Obama had a dark skin but other then that he was a very very conventional president who did not spend most of his time looking at the Fox network or twittering throughout the night.
Hell I understand that Obama even read his intelligence agencies briefing papers.
Gratuitous leftist race card play! Drink. Thanks.
It was not the left who came up with Obama was not a natural born citizen an then on top of that silliness low IQ Trump, who lawyers threaten colleges over releasing his grades, even cast questions on Obama perform in college an wish to see Obama transcribes while hiding his own.
Sorry no white candidate for President would had needed to put up with such nonsense.
Sweet! Second gratuitous leftist race card play. I guess some people miss the early Obama years when entire discussion groups could be shut down at will just by a leftist SHRIEKING . . . "Racist!" Good times.
His Mom knows better.
Sorry but when some people such as Trump act as only racists would act labeling them as racists and bigots is not only correct but call for.
Trump is a long standing no question about it racist an your crying about him and some of his supporter being label as such is not going to change the facts.
So, what is the relevance of skin color? Please do tell me how it's important to you.
We don't need the cult of personality types abusing the power of government to spy on the Democrats. We have Putin!
Dear Vladimir Putin,
Please spy on all the Democrat candidates, wiretap their phones, hack their emails and text messages, and don't forget that army of bots on Facebook and Twitter! Send all the dirt on those corrupt bastards to firstname.lastname@example.org
I think it kind of amusing myself but only in a sad way that any meaningful percent of the population would still be racists and that we would after daring to place a black man into the white house find as a reaction that our very next president is a racist.
Hell to add insult not only is Trump a racist/religion bigot he is not even a bright racist such as David Duke for example.
He more of a pet rock president.
Uhuh, uhuh, uhuh.
You keep saying: "racist".
I hope your stock picking is a hell of a lot better than your political analysis.
Best just to ignore the butthurt "Orange Man Bad" crowd when they cry racist. It's their way of saying "I got nuttin" Trump lives in their heads rent free.
But it's fun.
No. It's delicious.
I think it's evident.
I think that that stupid meme is the last resort of the nosepicker class.
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