The Women Against Feminism Movement

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  1. ryobi

    ryobi Well-Known Member

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    So you stand by your post bragging about young girls asking you out. There are a lot of sickos in the world, especially on the internet.
     
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    Junkieturtle Well-Known Member Donor

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    I think the problem is that feminism today is not what feminism yesterday was. I know there are different "forms" of feminism, but I would call myself what I consider to be a "classical" feminist in that I don't believe there should be any societal or professional barriers preventing people from either sex from doing something or taking part in something. Since our society and the European societies we mostly all came from were and in some ways still are male dominated, that means that the adjustments necessary to make things equal tend to be more female oriented.

    But feminism loses me when it starts to elevate women above men. Feminism to me was always about choice, namely, women having the same choices available to them that men do. For the most part, that's where we are today.
     
  3. axialturban

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    LOL, no its like a political lobby movement. They lobby within there area of interest, because it's an area which needs attention. Why would you expect a lobby group to mimick the responsibility of government? That's a silly proposition. It's up to government to manage the requirement's of the population, and lobby group's work on individual issues to achieve progress in those areas. Equating that to the KKK is delusional.
     
  4. Fugazi

    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    So trying to change what I said are you, nothing new about your misrepresentation it is standard for the majority of your replies. It is a shame you have to be a dishonest person in order to try and score a few points.

    You are right, there are .. in fact this reply is to one of them .. you.
     
  5. Fugazi

    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    Agreed, but when you have people like some of the posters here who cannot distinguish between the two and as such tar all with the same brush . .then they are no better than the women they try to demean.

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    Just to add, as usual you ignore the question asked.
     
  6. Fugazi

    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    The guy you are debating is far more than delusional, it is more of a psychotic obsession to the extent that he has to mis-quote and lie about other posters.
     
  7. Gwendoline

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    God knows how he'd respond if a very radical feminist was on this board. He refers to me as belonging to a 'hate supremacist movement' and I'm far from radical.

    He's obsessed with feminism to the point he makes no sense. When Jung talks about the 'shadow' we can bet we know where he has stuffed his shadow.

    Loony tunes, folks.
     
  8. ryobi

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    Feminists are definitely, for the most part, "loony tunes."

    ...and you're not radical Gwendoline??? You don't support an organiztion that portrays women as the only victims of domestic violence and men as the only perpetrators of domestic violence, an organization that uses false data; false statistics???
     
  9. Gwendoline

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    I support an organisation that highlights the tragic violence perpetrated on women. The statistics have been posted many, many times from official sources but you ignore them.

    And you calling me part of a hate supremacist movement is rather ludicrous... and disgusting on your part.

    Feminists are people. But you demonise them and seem to make them the source of all your angst. You're not hurting feminists but only hurting yourself with all your negativity and ill-wind.
     
  10. Glücksritter

    Glücksritter Well-Known Member

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    A person who e.g. advocates to strip men based on their gender from the basic civil rights and the guarantees of a state which is based on laws. Feminists fight for that whereever they have the power to do so. E.g. they want to change the burden of proof in rape cases and any other crimes which cannot threaten innocent women, but specifically innocent men to be impriosoned.

    When they have the opportunities to do it, they implement laws containing different prison terms for men and women based on their gender. Like in Spain, e.g.

    It's silly to discuss, if lower prison terms for women as female priviledge are an expression in a fight for equal rights or for female supremacy.

    In the example above there hasnt been any inbalance in the penal system. Before the feminist Zapatero regime in Spain took over males and femals had equal rights when they came to court, now thios is not the case, females are first class citizen, males second class citizen.

    And although your argument is not true, its whole nature is sick. Every IS-terrorist can refer to a global imbalance in favor of the US when he joyfully cuts the head of an American journalist off with a dull knife. And on the other hand every Iranian can use a global imbalance in favor of Sunni muslims over Shia muslims to justify repression, torture and murder of Sunni minorities in Iran.

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    ... says the so called "anti Zionist" Hamas-activist, the former so called "anti-imperialist" RAF-assasin or a so called "anti-Western" Serbian "Scorpion" in Srebrenica. Oh and the so called "anti-patriarchal" feminist of course.



    Lol. It's you who need to tell fairytales of feminist idealists. By the way, your whole world view in which you are able to label people as mentally ill based on their political attitude and send anyone to insane asylum is a testimony of the attitude of feminists.



    Hallo??? Do you still remember you declared non-feminists females to be mentally ill some lines before? Conservative positions are not reconcileable with feminist position. Humanist or individual positions, which include the right of a fair trial and the protection of the individual from despotism of the state and equal treatement of all ilndividuals are not reconcilable with many feminist positions. The positions of Christian women who see abortion as a sin are lunatics and mentally ill according to your statements here.

    Of course it limits.
     
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    And you blind yourself to the radical extremism of hating men that feminists of today are known for. So that makes you part of the problem.
     
  12. Gwendoline

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    Show me anywhere, over the course of six years in this section, that shows me hating men.

    As I said to Ryobi, I'll say to you: You're not hurting feminists but only hurting yourself with your negativity and ill-wind.
     
  13. ryobi

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    I'm sure plantation owners said something similar to the slaves when they, "acted up"
     
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    I'm sure men said something similar to women when they "acted up" ( wanted freedom and equality).

    And the plantation owners thought that freeing the slaves and treating them as equals was RADICAL, that slaves who wanted freedom were trouble makers who simply hated their owners and wanted "special" rights....
     
  15. Fugazi

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    Why oh why do the majority of anti-feminists on this board generalize so much?

    Please do provide your proof that feminists as a whole are part of the "radical extremism of hating men".
     
  16. ryobi

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    Who are you referring to that's an anti-feminist on this board???
     
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    As the saying goes, if the cap fits wear it.

    If you feel that the comment reflects you then accept it, if it doesn't reflect you then it really doesn't matter to you.
     
  20. ryobi

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    Of course not all feminist are like this. There are exceptions to everything.

    For example, Oscar Schindler was a Nazi and he saved hundreds of Jews. However, most Nazis did not save Jews.

    There are people who call themselves feminists who believe feminism stands for equality, who couldn't tell you the first thing about patriarchy, but IMO these aren't feminists, even though they call themselves such, in reality, in my opinion, these are egalitareans. It's just most people have never heard of egalitareanism, but everyone has heard of feminism, and most of those people believe feminism means gender equality when in reality feminists only care about inequality when the inequality effects women and at best they don't care when an inequality effects men and at worst they look at inequalities effecting men as victories for women.
     
  21. Fugazi

    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    So why do consistently try to blanket ALL feminists as radical?

    Godwin's Law - you are better than this.

    and you are perfectly entitled to your opinion . .however, that still does not give you the right to assume guilt by association. Feminism IS about equality, you simply continue to highlight the radical feminists who are NOT about equality and then project that assumption on to all feminists .. that is my issue with your posts nothing more, I fully agree with you that there are radical feminists whose goal is the subjugation of men, just as there are radical Muslims, radical Jews, radical Christians and radical MRM's .. should we all now assume that those radical elements are in fact what ALL members of these groups are?

    So simply put, if you want to highlight these radical feminists then have the decency to recognise and show that they are radicals and don't try to project this minority as the majority.
     
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    If feminism stands for equality how come you never hear feminists complaining about the sentencing gap it's estimated to be over 63% meanwhile in comparison the wage gap is estimated to only be 15% and how often have you heard feminists complaining about the wage gap???
     
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    crickets....chirp....chirp.....chirp

    So would you consider the feminists on this board, Gwendoline, Fox Hastings, Tyoko, to be radical feminists or just feminists because Gwendoline supports an organization the uses false data and false statistics to portray men as the only perpetrators of domestic violence and women as the only victims of domestic violence, fox hastings has said something like she doesn't care if men suffer because women have been oppressed by men for 10,000 years, and Tyoko has promoted violence against men saying men will be prostrate in the ground a high heel at their throats????

    So are these feminists radical feminists or just feminists???
     
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    crickets.....chirp.....chirp......chirp
     
  25. Fugazi

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    So you make a post at 12.31am in 10th Sept without quoting anyone ergo no one gets any notification of a comment made and then try to imply that the comment is being ignored. .. pathetic really.

    Well that would depend on the context of those replies, if they were in reply to one of your comments then I would expect that they were pushed into them by your usual anti-woman rants, and even if they are radicals that still does not give you the right to paint all feminists as radical which is what you do with every single comment.

    As you know full well I actually agree with you on this discrimination, on BOTH parts, so how about answering the following - So simply put, if you want to highlight these radical feminists then have the decency to recognise and show that they are radicals and don't try to project this minority as the majority.

    Would you care to try and explain why it is that you consistently render a very large brush over all feminists in EVERY comment you make?
     

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