The word of God and Mastubation. What does the bible say?

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  1. Matthewthf

    Matthewthf Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Masturbation is something that most men do and to a lesser extent a lot of women do. It says in the bible it is wrong. I will be the first to admit that as a christian I still do it. This is my biggest sin. I lead a christian life and believe in God and Jesus and the bible 100% but it is up to God weather I make it into heaven or not.

    Romans 3:23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God

    So when I masturbate it is a sin. I am happily married to my wife and I love her so much and I also know I can't keep asking God for forgiveness and saying I am sorry and then turn around and do it again which I do.


    Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and the sexually immoral. Hebrews 13:4 (NIV)

    Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge. Hebrews 13:4 (KJV)

    So I have an addiction to masturbation. I need to deal with it because it is wrong and I don't like the person it makes me to be. A slave to my addiction. I sin but like everyone else on earth there is no one perfect person. We all sin but we still have to admit our sins and try to do better in God's eyes. Any advice from fellow christians on how to deal with my sinful addiction would be greatly appreciated. My wife knows I do it and it hurts her feelings. This does bother me a lot and I know it hurts God to.

    So what advice can other christians give on this topic? What is everyone else's thoughts on Masturbation and do you all agree it is a sin?
     
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    Frank Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you worship a god that is offended because you masturbate, Matthew...the reasonable thing to do is to find a different god to worship...not to give up masturbating.

    I know that sounds harsh or insensitive...and may fly in the face of your supposed "faith"...but any god that is offended by a human because that human enjoys masturbating...is a god unworthy of any worship...or love or respect.

    If you absolutely have to continue worshiping this particular god...I would suggest you take the position that the people who are quoted telling you that stuff like "masturbating" is "wrong" (meaning: is something that offends your god)...are mistaken.

    Humans get things "wrong." (You claim you are getting something wrong by masturbating.) Wouldn't it make as much (probably more) sense to suppose THEY were wrong?

    Why on Earth would any god care if you derive enjoyment from stroking your dick?
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There is nothing wrong, or sinful, about masturbation.

    Its natural. It hurts and harms no one. It reduces stress and makes you calmer. It lowers the chance of aggressive, violent, or angry behavior.

    Stop condemning your natural behavior that is helpful.


    I was a Christian decades ago but LEFT because they kept telling me that sexual urges and masterbation was bad, but I knew deep in my heart and mind that there is nothing wrong with these very natural feelings. And I was right.
     
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    Birth control is a sin! Masturbation is a sin! God wants you to multiply his minions so get out there and procreate! I suggest Tinder.
    Edit: just read you're married. Get that wife of yours some romance novels, red wine, and dark chocolate.
     
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    Onnan wasn't killed by God for masturbation.. He was killed for disobedience to Levite law.. He was supposed to get his dead brother's wife pregnant.
     
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    Shut up and carry on wanking. :applause:

    They should have an emoji for it.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    with all due respect, i believe some counseling is in order if someone truly believes that sexuality is bad, sinful, harmful, etc.

    its perfectly natural and need not be feared.

    God does not want you to fear your own body.
     
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    Its called Levirite marrage.. and is for patriarchal clans to keep land and inheritance within the family.. Also practiced by Kurds and some Africans.

    The issue wasn't masturbation.
     
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    Its a sad fact, that a ridiculous dogmatic interpretation can produce such guilt and angst over the faithful's very salvation when all they are doing is indulging in a perfectly NATURAL auto-sexual act.

    What kind of god would create us to enjoy the sensation of ejaculation and then deny us the pleasure of doing to ourselves as an act of "faith" in his "love" and "glory"?

    Not one that I could believe in that's for sure.
     
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    Prudes reinvented the story of Onnan for their own purposes.
     
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    sex is a healthy and good thing.

    masturbation is perfectly healthy and normal.

    sad that some abuse the Bible so as to say that the Bible is against sex and masturbation.

    if someone has sexual hangups, blame your parents and environment, not Jesus.
     
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    "Flee from sexual immorality. Every other sin a person commits is outside the body, but the sexually immoral person sins against his own body." - 1 Corinthians 6:18
     
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    You say that you have an addiction to masturbation, if so what harm does your masturbation cause you? If you identify a harm you can use it as a reason to change your behavior. If this is insufficient then there is not much that can be done to change yourself. I have found that if the heart (feelings) are not unified with the brain (logic) then positive change is all but impossible.

    I do not subscribe to your theological view and argue that there is nothing wrong with masturbation in and of itself, although depending upon the context it certainly can be wrong and even harmful.

    P.S. I applaud your candor as I too have used the forum to work through some of my own issues.
     
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    To those who say that masturbation is fine, is it fine in a marriage?
     
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    Depends whether she gets headaches.
     
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    To me it would depend upon if she minds of does not mind.
     
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    Definitely. It is neither likely nor necessary that both people in a marriage will want to get off at the same frequency all the time. The expectation of that is unhealthy. If she wants to have sex every other day but the guy needs to get off daily or he spends half his time in a bad mood, nothing wrong with him masturbating every other day. Masturbation inherently harms nobody, so calling it a sin is just another reason the morality in the bible should be considered suspect.
     
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    I can see it now:
    Darling, I love you.
    Not now dear, I've got a headache.
    Oh, shame. Do you mind if I jerk off instead?
    You disgusting pervert! How dare you?!? That's a sin. Get a cold shower.

    Marital bliss.
     
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    I mean, there is always the consideration of respecting one's partner's wishes... but such a request is definitely not a reasonable one. Do we give in to partner's unreasonable requests to keep the peace? Sometimes sure. But this is kind of a big, health and basic quality of life related one, like asking somebody to never go to the doctor or to only go to the bathroom at specific times of day.
     
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    When presented with questions like this, I usually turn to the Book of Python.

     
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    This is pretty rude, so be warned.

    Hitler caught wanking:
     
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    I see that as a selfish perspective as it does not take into account the feelings of the woman. Some women would be very offended if they found out that their man was masturbating and I argue that can be harmful to some relationships. I think such things need to be ironed out before a couple gets too involved in an effort to mitigate problems down the road.
     
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    Fair enough, but unless both parties are on the same page problems are likely.
     
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    Communication is important. The guy shouldn't say, "I masturbate, deal with it" if his partner has an issue. But at the end of the day, it is her who is being unreasonable by opposing it. There is no reasonable reason to oppose it. And he shouldn't say that either, but rather understand why she opposes it and try to address those concerns, and explain its importance to him. Because for people like me, it really is like telling them you can't go to the bathroom when you need to. The selfish partner is one who hurts their partner and doesn't care, on either side. Telling somebody they can't masturbate is hurting them.
     
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    Why care what a flawed old book says? IMO, masturbation is a personal issue and not the business of a sky fairy or spouse.
     

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