They Changed The Definition of Fascism | It's NOT Right Or Left Wing

The 1984 Orwellian attempts to redefine words by Leftists is truly a threat to our Democracy and Free Speech. These types of acts need to be exposed at every turn, so average Americans are informed of the institutionalized scumbaggery of leftists in our education system, media, and bureaucracies.

 

Gee they got changed in 2009 what big event happened then...

 

Preach Carlin!

 

Some right-wing vlogger on Youtube? If I want to listen to right-wing propaganda and disinformation, I'll turn on Fox News...

 

No.

The actual dictionary from now and all the dictionaries pre-2009. What is wrong with you? Did you comment without actually seeing the source? Why even show up in the thread if you are going to write something so entirely poorly thought out?

Seriously, are you just trolling here?

 

Youtube citation that goes against most scholarly articles about Fascism, lol OP's bogus claims.

Agreed, preach on Carlin:

 

This is crap.
I graduated High School in 1965.
Had Honors Social Studies.
Fascism was described as extreme right-wing, Socialism/communism as extreme left wing, and the underlying struggle of WWII was fascism vs communism, as they were opposites and hated each other.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/20...Characteristics-Of-Fascism-Trump-Is-a-Fascist

The 14 Defining Characteristics Of Fascism.

Compiled by Dr. Lawrence Britt many years ago. He analysed analyzed Hitler, Mussolini, Franco, Suharto and a number of South American regimes. From that analysis, he established the 14 Defining Characteristics of Fascism, and guess what? They map directly to Trump’s policies, practices and political positions more than I ever imagined. The evidence is crystal clear and abundant.

The following list defines the 14 characteristics along with their definitions - and a few of Trump’s gems as examples. Some of the examples are repeated because Trump has managed to match one statement to more than one characteristic of Fascism.

1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos , slogans, symbols, songs and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

Mottos and slogans: Make America Great Again, Build the Wall, Lock ‘er Up, Drain the Swamp. Songs: Lee Greenwood, God Bless the USA. Symbols and paraphernalia: Truckers’ hats, Purple Heart, “I always wanted one”.

2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in Fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.

“Muslim ban”; “Muslim database”; “kiII their families”; “torture works”; “more than waterboarding”; “if I tell generals to do it [war crimes], they will do it”; women who’ve had abortions should be penalized.

3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause - In Fascist regimes, the people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

Mexicans, Muslims, Chinese, African Americans; “get-em-outta-here”; Crooked Hillary, Lyin’ Ted, Little Marco; the media; calling the US Intel Community Nazis; Russians are OK though.

4. Supremacy of the Military - In a Fascist regime, even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.

Cutting funding for Meals on Wheels, CPB and after school programs, while increasing the Homeland Security and Defense budgets.

“We need to make our military so big, so powerful, we never have to use it” - even though Trump clearly knows we already have the most powerful and formidable military in the world by a wide margin, and that conventional military power isn’t the key to asymmetric warfare.

5. Rampant Sexism - The governments of Fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under Fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family institution.

“Grab ‘em by the p---y”,“You have to treat women like s--t”; “A woman who is very flat chested is very hard to be a 10.”; “Perhaps I’d date my daughter.”; “Look at that face”; “Fat pig”; women who’ve had abortions should be penalized.

Support of Roger Ailes’ and Bill O’Reilly’s multiple cases of sexual harassment.

6. Controlled Mass Media - Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic Fascist media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.

“News media is the enemy of the American People”; “lying media”; open up libel laws.

Roger AiIes; Sean Hannity; Bill O’Reilly; Rush Limbaugh; Steve Bannon; Alex Jones; Mark Levin.

7. Obsession with National Security - In a Fascist state, fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.

“They’re bringing drugs. They’re bring crime. They’re rapists”; “Muslim Ban”; “Muslim Database”,

8. Religion and Government are Intertwined - Governments in Fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.

“Christianity, it's under siege”; “An amendment, pushed by Lyndon Johnson many years ago, threatens religious institutions with a loss of their tax-exempt status if they openly advocate their political views.”; Selecting Christian Dominionist Pence as his running mate.

9. Corporate Power is Protected - The industrial and business aristocracy of a Fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

“I give to everybody. when they call, I give. And do you know what? When I need something from them two years later, three years later, I call them, they are there for me.”

Strategic bankruptcy protection; frivolous lawsuits; shortchanging contractors and vendors; usage of eminent domain to acquire other people’s property; cabinet rife with a record number of corporate and Wall Street elite.

Nominating people to head agencies who are hostile to those agencies’ very purpose. Why? To protect corporate interests and profits.

10. Labor Power is Suppressed - Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a Fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.

“Taxes too high, wages too high, we’re not going to be able to compete against the world”; “Having a low minimum wage isn’t a bad thing”.

11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts and letters is openly attacked.

“Climate Change is a Chinese hoax”; “I'm smart, You’re stupid”; “I love the poorly educated” which is fine, but Trump also despises the “intellectual elite”.

Andy Warhol: “I still hate the Trumps”; Artspace Magazine: “He's hardly the only artist to hate Trump”.

12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment - Under Fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in Fascist nations.
(“Law and Order President”; “The Central Park 5”; “bring back Stop and Frisk”; Women who have abortions should be punished; “Lock ‘er Up”)

13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in Fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.

Family members and a record number of Wall Street cronies in his Administration.

“I give to everybody. when they call, I give. And do you know what? When I need something from them two years later, three years later, I call them, they are there for me.”

Trump Foundation: Paid a fine for illegal campaign contributions, admitted to illegal self-dealing, admitted to accepting illegal donations, under a cease and desist order.

14. Fraudulent Elections - Sometimes elections in Fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.

“The election is rigged”; “We should just cancel the election and declare me the winner”;.

At least a dozen confirmed contacts with Russian Oligarchs, Diplomats and/or Intelligence agents, despite Trump and associates publicly refuting it 20 times with absolutes such as ‘zero involvement’.

 

The video shows a definition of fascism from dictionary.com that is not what I got.

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/fascism?s=t

(sometimes initial capital letter) a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.

 

Fascism was always a leftist ideology and in practice
Fascism required a large controlling centralized government
Fascist Germany and Italy both had extensive government run social programs
Fascism was basically socialism combined with nationalism
Hitler him self in a speech admitted he was a socialist

 

so lets dissect the definition
"regimenting all industry, commerce, etc"
what does that sound like to you?
It sure in the hell isn't a belief followed by right ideology the right is about less government to the point the very far right is anarchy which is no government

 

That's the definition I get. But I also get another which doesn't require a 'dictator'.

These definitions could fit either side of the political divide, depending on how they conduct themselves and/or their policies.

Since there is necessarily a heavy component of authoritarianism in fascism, I would consider the left considerably more fascist TODAY (we weren't, a decade ago), than the right. The right seems positively liberal by comparison. Bear in mind I'm not in America, and speak only of my own western nation.

 

Miriam Webster

a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorialleader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

So basically that doesn't apply to either the American right or left though bits are in each.

 

no it doesn't it falls directly in the left hemisphere of political ideology of a large centralized controlling government
remember the right is about a small uncontrolling government to the point the very far right is anarchy no government

 

wrong it fits in mostly with the left ideology of a large centralized controlling government
remember the right is about a small uncontrolling government to the point the very far right is anarchy no government

 

dubble

 

for sure. it does NOW. the left wasn't always authoritarian, though. we used to be the liberals. we used to be more concerned with the practicalities of reasonable survival. now it's about the flavour of our survival, and dictating that flavour.

 

You people try to rewrite the dictionary all the time. Thugs used to be thick-necked criminals. Now it's black teenagers, thanks to you people. But the real thug today is Donnie Trump.

 

Well, in theory, but it appears the so called 'right' is full of progressives, at least in Congress.

 

Not surprised you make this a TDS rant.

 

then they aren't the true right and why they are called RINOs

 

It is hard to imagine anyone fixated on hatred and hate-mongering as you do in your messages. However, it is people acting as you do in your messages that were in reality the strongest support Trump had by endlessly spewing hatred and accusations at the majority of voters. Now, Trump supporters in every poll are more committed to him than ever, while nearly half of partisan Democrats now say the Democratic Party no longer represents or cares about them.

Most of those SOLIDLY are on the NEW Global Corporate Fascist Democratic Party side. 3, 5, 6, 9, 10, 12, 13 and 14 are all extreme Democratic Party traits.

Just to pick one, it is absolutely ABSURD to claim that the Republicans control the NYT, NYP, LAT, WaPo, CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC or PBS. The corporate MSM and press are owned by the super rich elites and global corporations as propaganda outlets. In the last election they non-stop campaigned against Trump and for Clinton to the extremes - and still campaign for Democrats and against Trump.

The forcing of Clinton down people's throats and the entire Clinton team is Cronyism and Corruption - a Democratic Party trait. Republicans massively rejected it in rejecting Jeb Bush and all party insiders.

Election Fraud clearly on the Democrat and Clinton side - just ask Bernie Sanders supporters.

There is a rabid distain for free speech and open discussion on college campuses and in public by the left - not the right.

The Democratic Party is the party of corporations, furiously demanding an endless supply of cheap immigrant labor to keep wages down and vehemently supporting foreign sweatshops - also meaning it is the Democratic Party that is also anti labor.

#8 is just a lie. Hitler was intensely intolerant of religions - just like the Democratic Party and many to most Democrats - certainly on this forum most are.

The Democratic Party's enemies list is almost endless. Over 80% of Americans are incessantly called deplorable, bigots, racists, ignorant, fat, stupid, etc.

On the military, it is now the Democratic Party that is the party of war, of bombings and drone strikes and militarism. Of furious opposition to peace and detente with other powers. Under Obama, the USA attacked more countries than any other time in history. The Democratic Party now incessantly declares "WAR" exists between Russia and the United States. For the first time in American political history, a major candidate for president repeatedly promised to literally order the US military to attack the Russian military.

The Democratic Party now demands that the militarists, the intelligence community and overall militarism essentially have total control fo the government's foreign and military policy.

Your message proves the NEW Democratic Party is fascist. However, it is not nationalistic, but globalistic with open hatred of the United States, American history and the vast majority of Americans. However, the Republican neocons and bosses are not nationalists either. President Trump and his supporters are patriotic and believe government should foremost serve Americans. The Democratic Party is going to fanatical lengths to call people who are patriotic and put our country first "fascists."

 

Seriously! He is! Not surprising the left tries to reinvent our language, as fascists are won't to do, in order to "prove" they can't be fascist, racist, misogynistic... you name it.

You nailed it by correctly by terming this Big Lie as Orwellian as 1984 was a plea against fascism and authoritarian anti democratic rule
by an elite ruling class that oppressed the masses by claiming they were ruling in the little man's self interests.

Doesn't this remind you of how the democrat party operates....We'll manage your lives because we're smarter and better than you
and know what's best for you.

Redefining the word fascism so it has an anti conservative bias is one way they dishonestly frame and rig the discussion...as fascists are won't to do.

 

"Black thugs" were created by and supported by the Democratic Party.

No witnesses against Donald Trump have every died violent deaths and murderers. What is just the KNOWN count on the Clintons? 20? Now about 1 ever 4 to 5 months. And those just the ones that make the national news.

 

The most important thing to you certainly should only to listen to leftwing global corporate propaganda. Why would you listen to anyone else?

 

We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions.

who said that?
sounds like something Bernie Sanders would spew doesn't it

well it is a quote from Hitler