They hunted and killed a baby elephant!

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  1. Xenamnes

    Xenamnes Well-Known Member

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    Take it up with the government that allowed the hunt to take place in the first place.
     
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    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Would liberals feel better knowing if was a GOP elephant ?


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    I feel better know.
     
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    I have no problem with trophy hunting so long as the creature is not endangered and the carcass does not go to waste. Licensed hunts like this are an important part of many local economies and crucial in funding conservation efforts.

    But I do think those who need to kill should be finding adult animals. Shooting the young is just, at the very least, lame as hell.

    However, are we certain that's a 'baby' and not a small adult? There are different sizes of adult elephants out there.
     
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    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well I'm a very technically guy and the caliber of the cartridge matters.
     
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    Those states are led by humans.
    Are our leaders a different kind of human?
     
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    Like it or not, the money the men you denigrate here fund a big part of conservation efforts with the money spent on these hunts. In contrast to the native populations who poach for tusk/horn etc. who are responsible for most depletion of species. Your stereotypes are grossly misplaced.
     
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    Sadly this is the harsh truth nuke. I did a research paper in undergrad and spent quite some time talking to game wardens in Africa (via phone conference) and I spoke with trophy hunters as well. I am passionately against killing these beautiful animals but the harsh effing reality is without these guys dropping millions to get the chance to blow these beautiful animals up the parks would be wiped out within a year.

    The game warden of Africa told me that because of trophy hunting (which he was also against) the lion and elephant population has increased so dramatically that they have become a nuisance. I hate human beings when it comes to this stuff but it is what it is.
     
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    Then it could be argued that, if the above is a constant, and enough trophy hunting is permitted to legally occur, the elephant population in the nation of Africa will continue increasing to the point it is no longer threatened and on the verge of extinction.
     
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    If they were going by the law of the land, however stupid that law of the land may be, the dastardly deed can be criticized, but it's just hot air.
     
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    I love donkeys and mules, even burros. That photo makes me sick.

    But if I were in danger of starving I would shoot one and have it quartered in ten minutes.

    Horse flesh is good eating, and that flesh probably is, too.
     
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    When I lived on the rez the injuns shot a wild burro and cut off it's hind quarters, dug a pit, started as fire and buried the piece of meat.

    Kinda like a Hawaiian BBQ on the rez.

    Next day we had real burritos.

    A real burrito used burro meat.
     
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    In some areas of Africa the elephant population has grown to a point where they are destroying the habitat they live in. This results in the animals leaving the reserves and destroying farm crops. It often results in clashes between villagers and elephants. In short, the herd must be thinned so the herd can survive. Because the large mature animals are what draws the tourists, the immature animals are what is thinned. The man who shot this animal paid a very large fee for the privilege, probably around $50K. That money is used to feed and maintain the herd.
     
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    That's what I was thinking, elephants leave a huge footprint on the environment and I bet after eating all of those green plants they fart and the elephant farts aren't being taxed like how they tax cow farts in California.
     
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    I see your point. Elephant flatulence is causing global warming. That guy with the gun does resemble Al Gore. Saving the world with bullets.
     
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    If these so called hunters think shooting something as large as an elephant is a challenge, I suggest they instead try hunting mice and rats,now there is a real test of hunting skills.
     
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    Most elephants are killed by black people. Do you hate black people now?
     
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    I’m a former hunter. I didn’t stop hunting because of some great epiphany but because at my age, 75, I can’t picture myself dragging a deer, even a disemboweled deer, a mile through the woods.
    I am not a fan of trophy hunting but I don’t condemn trophy hunters. Having said that, let’s get a little clarity on what was shot. It was an elephant but it was not a baby elephant. A baby elephant would not have tusks. Elephant tusks are modified teeth in the upper jaw and first emerge at about a year after birth. Tusks grow about six or seven inches a year. The picture indicated the elephant is about five years old. Not a baby but a child by human standards and not a child but a young adult by elephant standards b
     
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    What makes a rat less noble than an elephant?
     
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    What a load of nonsense. This is just trophy hunting based on a capitalistic system.
    And my stereotyping is bang on "the buck". It's a stritckly white men thing, with the occasional white woman.
    And they kill rhino's just as well,... not for the tusk... just to kill to have a picture taken with a dead animal.
    Just go google trophy hunting yourself.
     
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    You maybe right but I have seen elephants up close and that is one tiny elephant in the picture. Also it was still an elephant that had its prime mating years ahead of it so whether its a "child" or a "teenager" is moot.

    Elephants are one of the most intelligent animals on the planet outside of great apes, dolphins etc. nor are they overpopulated like deer are in my area which necessitates hunting to fend off mass starvation. There is no reason to shoot elephants and definitely not ones that young.
     

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