They won't admit it in Stockholm, but Donald Trump is right about immigration in Swed

Where are the liberal feminists on the Islamic rape epidemic?

 

Is the person who wrote this anti-Semitic OP a CHRISTIAN(?), because the Bible saying that the Jews are responsible for killing their beloved Christian savior tends to help create hatred towards innocent Jewish people to this very day? Jesus will see that the Jews burn in hell, so of course Jesus is helping create hatred and bigotry towards Jews. Mel Gibson is one Christian who hates Jews because of what they (supposedly) did to the beloved Christian savior.

The Anti-Defamation League accused Gibson of anti-semitism over the film's unflattering depiction of Caiaphas and the Sanhedrin.
In The Nation, reviewer Katha Pollitt said, "Gibson has violated just about every precept of the (United States Conference of Catholic Bishops) conference's own 1988 'Criteria' for the portrayal of Jews in dramatizations of the Passion (no bloodthirsty Jews, no rabble, no use of Scripture that reinforces negative stereotypes of Jews, etc.) ... The priests have big noses and gnarly faces, lumpish bodies, yellow teeth; Herod Antipasand his court are a bizarre collection of oily-haired, epicene perverts.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mel_Gibson

 

Fleeing the hell-holes created by the Qur'an in their native lands.

 

I was city dog catcher for 5 days so I myself have 5 days more political experience than Trump had the day before he became president.

 

So are most Jews, are what, AMISH? Buddhists? Perhaps Zoroastrians?

 

I've lived in Sweden almost whole my life and I still get surprised regarding the Swedes being naive and good hearted.
And the one thing that gets me angry is when they put aside their own traditions to "please" the others. Remember in School when we had the church visiting us for confirmation. The teacher and the priests told us foreigners something in style with "you don't have to participate in this, it's ok to not participate" they somehow made the whole thing look like something boring that we foreigners don't have to participate, like if it was a reward.

I also notice at my work when someone is talking about migration, they all get quiet when a foreigner approaches, they are afraid to be labeled, to me as an southern European that doesn't appeal at all. We are more straight forward and say what we think.

I once had a quarrel with a feminist dude at my job haha. I couldn't even debate anything I just laughed and listen to him raging in anger. Dude also has anger management issues, weird f*cker.

 

Correction: Created by
The Qur'an did not wipe out the Baathist governments.
Indeed, Saddam Hussain, Qaddafi and Assad maintained their nation's integrity while opposing Islamist. They maintained working economies, housing, infrastructure, etc.
turned these nations into Hell Holes, not the Qur'an.
And they don't get no Marshall Plan.

If you comprende the politics of the area there are Royals like the Saudis. Baathist as mentioned above and Islamist aka Muslim Brotherhood. Each one cannot stand the other.
But, the Royals and the Baathists did agree on suppressing the Islamist.
upset that system by removing the Baathist governments creating anarchy, war and destruction.
As much as I would love to blame the Qur'an, this is not one of those times I can do so.

Solution: The West set up West Guaranteed Centers in N. Africa and the M.E. with infrastructure, housing, the means of an economy and "defense". It would be cheaper per capita than a refugee is on a host nation.


Moi

r > g

Across an immense, unguarded, ethereal border, Canadians, cool and unsympathetic,
regard our America with envious eyes and slowly and surely draw their plans against us.​

 

Many, many of the most disaterous states in the world use the Qur'an as their guiding book. Many are utter hell-holes. Apparently Allah does NOT answer the constant prayers of his beloved Muslims.

 

You want to blame politics, but I know that RELIGION (religions diverge from reality) is mostly (but not 100%) to blame.

 

That's because Mohammad approved of rape of non-Muslim women (captives), and said that Jihadists get the highest level in Jannah.

 

That is according to muslims hate sited you keep reading. In Saudi Arabia. where they follow the word of Mohammad to the letter,... you can get convicted to lose your head if you raped somebody.

 

When you said "hell hole" I envisioned cities turned to rubble.
I guess you believe the Gift of Freedom is better than a functioning city and nation.
destroyed Baathist governments allowing the Islamist "Freedom". Get it?
And then came the destruction, deaths, deployments, refugees.

If you use "hell hole" again, please specify what you mean.
Neither old Iraq, Libya, nor Syria used the Qur'an as their guide.
The Baathist were Pan Arab nationalist to hold a nation of different sects and tribes together.
We removed a Baathist in Egypt and the people elected an Islamist.
And what did we do then. Do you remember?


Having just read all your little uploads rather than rely on alerts, I now add

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You and I were not there at Mohammad's time, so we'll never know 100% exactly what his position on rape of captives was, for sure. But if, repeat if, hypothetically here, for argument's sake (he might NOT have approved of rape of captives - we'll never know 100%), Mohammad DID approve of rape of captives, would you condemn Mohammad in no uncertain terms for that, notme? I would of course, if, repeat if, it was true. Would you?....or is rape of captives acceptable to you?

 

There are many many nations that believe the Qur'an is the best guide book for life ever - many of them, for example, treat women like dirt. This index is one barometer of that: http://hdr.undp.org/en/content/gender-inequality-index-gii

Can we both agree that if you were in Allah's shoes that you would have NOT said Qur'an 2:282 - which says that women are not too bright (a woman's testimony is only worth HALF that of the apparently superior Muslim male's testimony)? I of course would have NOT said that, as I believe in women's rights as a Modern Secular Humanist. It's a simply question - can you answer "yes" to it, Moi621?

 

The "muslims hate sited" you refer to is the Islamic texts themselves!

Qur'an[edit]
They ask thee concerning women's courses. Say: They are a hurt and a pollution: So keep away from women in their courses, and do not approach them until they are clean. But when they have purified themselves, ye may approach them in any manner, time, or place ordained for you by Allah.

"Your women are a tilth for you (to cultivate) so go to your tilth as ye will, and send (good deeds) before you for your souls, and fear Allah, and know that ye will (one day) meet Him. Give glad tidings to believers, (O Muhammad)."
Qur'an 2:222-223
If ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, Marry women of your choice, Two or three or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one, or (a captive) that your right hands possess.
Qur'an 4:3
"Also (prohibited are) women already married, except those whom your right hands possess: Thus hath Allah ordained (Prohibitions) against you: Except for these, all others are lawful, provided ye seek (them in marriage) with gifts from your property,- desiring chastity, not lust, seeing that ye derive benefit from them, give them their dowers (at least) as prescribed; but if, after a dower is prescribed, agree Mutually (to vary it), there is no blame on you, and Allah is All-knowing, All-wise."
Qur'an 4:24
Who abstain from sex, Except with those joined to them in the marriage bond, or (the captives) whom their right hands possess,- for (in their case) they are free from blame,
Qur'an 23:5-6
O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee; and daughters of thy paternal uncles and aunts, and daughters of thy maternal uncles and aunts, who migrated (from Makka) with thee; and any believing woman who dedicates her soul to the Prophet if the Prophet wishes to wed her;- this only for thee, and not for the Believers (at large); We know what We have appointed for them as to their wives and the captives whom their right hands possess;- in order that there should be no difficulty for thee. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
Qur'an 33:50
"Not so the worshippers, who are steadfast in prayer, who set aside a due portion of their wealth for the beggar and for the deprived, who truly believe in the Day of Reckoning and dread the punishment of their Lord (for none is secure from the punishment of their Lord); who restrain their carnal desire (save with their wives and their slave girls, for these are lawful to them: he that lusts after other than these is a transgressor..."
Qur'an 70:22-30
Hadith[edit]
Raping Prisoners of War[edit]
Narrated Ibn Muhairiz: I entered the Mosque and saw Abu Said Al-Khudri and sat beside him and asked him about Al-Azl (i.e. coitus interruptus). Abu Said said, "We went out with Allah's Apostle for the Ghazwa of Banu Al-Mustaliq and we received captives from among the Arab captives and we desired women and celibacy became hard on us and we loved to do coitus interruptus. So when we intended to do coitus interrupt us, we said, 'How can we do coitus interruptus before asking Allah's Apostle who is present among us?" We asked (him) about it and he said, 'It is better for you not to do so, for if any soul (till the Day of Resurrection) is predestined to exist, it will exist."
Sahih Bukhari 5:59:459
Abu Sa'id al-Khudri (Allah her pleased with him) reported that at the Battle of Hanain Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) sent an army to Autas and encountered the enemy and fought with them. Having overcome them and taken them captives, the Companions of Allah's Messenger (may peace te upon him) seemed to refrain from having intercourse with captive women because of their husbands being polytheists. Then Allah, Most High, sent down regarding that:" And women already married, except those whom your right hands possess (iv. 24)" (i. e. they were lawful for them when their 'Idda period came to an end).
Sahih Muslim 8:3432
Abu Sa'id al-Khudri (Allah be pleased with him) reported that Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) sent a small army. The rest of the hadith is the same except this that he said: Except what your right hands possessout of them are lawful for you; and he did not mention" when their 'idda period comes to an end". This hadith has been reported on the authority of AbuSa'id (al-Khudri) (Allah be pleased with him) through another chain of transmitters and the words are: They took captives (women) on the day of Autas who had their husbands. They were afraid (to have sexual intercourse with them) when this verse was revealed:" And women already married except those whom you right hands posses" (iv. 24)
Sahih Muslim 8:3433, See also: Sahih Muslim 8:3433
"Abu Sirma said to Abu Sa'id al Khadri (Allah he pleased with him): 0 Abu Sa'id, did you hear Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) mentioning al-'azl? He said: Yes, and added: We went out with Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) on the expedition to the Bi'l-Mustaliq and took captive some excellent Arab women; and we desired them, for we were suffering from the absence of our wives, (but at the same time) we also desired ransom for them. So we decided to have sexual intercourse with them but by observing 'azl (Interruptus Coitus - Withdrawing the male sexual organ before emission of semen to avoid-conception). But we said: We are doing an act whereas Allah's Messenger is amongst us; why not ask him? So we asked Allah's Mes- senger (may peace be upon him), and he said: It does not matter if you do not do it, for every soul that is to be born up to the Day of Resurrection will be born."
Sahih Muslim 8:3371
"Abu Sa’id al-Khudri said: The Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) sent a military expedition to Awtas on the occasion of the battle of Hunain. They met their enemy and fought with them. They defeated them and took them captives. Some of the Companions of the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) were reluctant to have intercourse with the female captives because of their pagan husbands. So Allah, the Exalted, sent down the Qur’anic verse: “And all married women (are forbidden) unto you save those (captives) whom your right hands possess.” That is to say, they are lawful for them when they complete their waiting period."
Sunan Abu Dawud 2155 (Dar-us-Salam Ref)
Narrated Ruwayfi' ibn Thabit al-Ansari: Should I tell you what I heard the Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him) say on the day of Hunayn: It is not lawful for a man who believes in Allah and the last day to water what another has sown with his water (meaning intercourse with women who are pregnant); it is not lawful for a man who believes in Allah and the Last Day to have intercourse with a captive woman till she is free from a menstrual course; and it is not lawful for a man who believes in Allah and the Last Day to sell spoil till it is divided.
Sunan Abu Dawud 11:2153, See also Abu Dawud vol.2 no.2154
Raping Slaves[edit]
Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri: That while he was sitting with the Prophet a man from the Ansar came and said, "O Allah's Apostle! We get slave girls from the war captives and we love property; what do you think about coitus interruptus?" Allah's Apostle said, "Do you do that? It is better for you not to do it, for there is no soul which Allah has ordained to come into existence but will be created."
Sahih Bukhari 8:77:600
Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri: that while he was sitting with Allah's Apostle he said, "O Allah's Apostle! We get female captives as our share of booty, and we are interested in their prices, what is your opinion about coitus interrupt us?" The Prophet said, "Do you really do that? It is better for you not to do it. No soul that which Allah has destined to exist, but will surely come into existence.
Sahih Bukhari 3:34:432
Jabir (Allah be pleased with him) reported that a man came to Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) and said: I have a slave-girl who is our servant and she carries water for us and I have intercourse with her, but I do not want her to conceive. He said: Practise 'azl, if you so like, but what is decreed for her will come to her. The person stayed back (for some time) and then came and said: The girl has become pregnant, whereupon he said:I told you what was decreed for her would come to her.
Sunan Abu Dawud 8:3383
Narrated Mu'awiyah ibn Haydah: I said: Apostle of Allah, from whom should we conceal our private parts and to whom can we show? He replied: conceal your private parts except from your wife and from whom your right hands possess (slave-girls)...
Sunan Abu Dawud 31:4006
https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur'an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Rape

 

Your love of Saddam is very telling.

 

You're defending a brutal, savage, dictatorship. Just listen to yourself.

 

Can we at least agree that a great solution would be if certain Muslims could find the moral courage to purge the 164 Jihad-enabling verses from the Qur'an? Can we? Can we at least find some common ground as a starting point here?

 

The Quran is the Quran. And Saudi Arabia is known to follow it exceptionally strict. And they got the death penalty for people who rape. But lets take known hate sites above reality.

 

Indeed,... those wiki hate sites like wikiislam

 

Actually, these jews are usually leftists/liberals when it comes to pushing for "anti-racism" in their Western host countries, and zionists when it comes to supporting the racist, genocidal bandit state of Israel. You can read about it in the following threads:

US Black/Jewish Alliance—But Not in Israel

http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/us-black-jewish-alliance—but-not-in-israel.492316/

Trump Effect: Jewish and Muslim Organizations Form New Alliance

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ons-form-new-alliance.497464/#post-1067149612

Yes, this is correct, although I should mention that jewish politicians and jewish media outlets were the biggest promoters of these disgraceful zionist wars, whose purpose was to secure Israel's hegemony in the Middle East.

 

Yes, rubble. After 1400 years, this is the best Allah can do for Muslims, apparently:

 

We both agree about the Jews of Israel generally being blatant racists, and the Zionists being outlaws. More UN resolutions have been against ISRAEL than even most any MUSLIM nation, if you can believe that!

 

It quotes the ISLAMIC TEXTS! QURAN AND HADITH!! That's somehow a "hate" site!? If so, then the Islamic texts themselves is are "hate texts". Can we both agree that it would have been best if Allah/Mohammad did not have those hateful and violent parts in the Islamic texts, notme? Surely we can agree on that, as that would of course have been what would have been best for the world.

 

It's not "hateful" to point out, to try to help the world, the barbaric parts of barbaric ancient texts. It's HELPFUL - that way people will be more likely to leave those texts. Such as these guys:
List of ex-Muslim organisations
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ex-Muslim_organisations