This comparison shows how Russia’s latest nuclear weapons dwarf America’s (and everyone else’s)

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  1. squidward

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    Gullible humans will hand themselves over to abusers who claim to care about them.
     
  2. Destroyer of illusions

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    This is clearly seen in the example of the heads of EU and US countries for many years. In Russia, however, trustful people also believed Alcoholics and scum Yeltsin.
     
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    Easy solutions to difficult problems is what humans always fall for.
     
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    The nuclear arsenal on both sides can destroy civilization many times over, so building larger nukes seems a bit displaced.

    I would imagine we and russia want the ability to destroy the other, before they can destroy us. I would imagine that is where the real money is being spent. Then all it takes are neocons in charge, if we get that advantage, and in their madness they lust after this idea, and dream of total world dominance. As all evil men dream about. Or madmen as seen in a 007 novel.

    When I look at war mongering, comparing the US to Russia, clearly the US is the king of the hill. And the most apt to invade and take down sovereign nations. Makes us the most dangerous nation to ever exist, even more dangerous than ww2 germany and japan. All it takes are more irresponsible madmen neocons to take it to the unspeakable level.

    And hell no, I do not like it as an american with traditional values and a believer in peace and prosperity for the People.
     
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  5. fmw

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    It isn't an argument. It is an observation.
     
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    There is nothing wrong with it. You will have to excuse our media they are only a pathetic arm of the democratic party, still so upset they lost that they prefer war between russia and the U.S.A over admitting Trump is successfully negotiating peace with NK and Russia. When obama and hillary were in charge...they loved russia. Russia is just being used as a pawn in their local politics here. I rather enjoy watching Putin mince our left wing
    Trump is negotiating peace with both russia and NK. Do you agree with him?
     
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    The only issue if Russia fires any nukes at us would they have a hope of surviving as a nation yes or no? That's what we are talking about using them and they afterwards unlike us in a nuclear exchange and I would say not so does it matter how hard theirs hit over ours which were always more accurate.
     
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    I am not surprised. I have long understood that you have no arguments.
     
  9. fmw

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    As I have noted that you do not have any observations.
     
  10. Destroyer of illusions

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    Naturally, Russia will survive as a nation and as a state.
    I wonder why Americans always talk about a nuclear retaliation against Russia in the event of an attack. Nuclear war technologies are already outdated. For example, Russia has an advantage over the US in terms of destroying tectonic plates of the continent.
    Academician Sakharov proposed in the 50s of the 20th century to install nuclear charges in tectonic rifts around the American coast. He prepared all the necessary calculations for this. The strength of the charge and the effect of the displacement of the tectonic plate and the tsunami wave. Now all this can be done by "Status 6". But although Status 6 is a new weapon, there are ways to do the same without nuclear weapons.
    You imagine. At one point, the US simply ceases to exist. There is no nuclear attack, no missiles, aircraft and submarines.
    Just in one moment there will be a mixing of tectonic plates in the San Andrea fault and the like, as well as from the displacement of the underground plates there will be an eruption of the Yellowstone volcano. And in the literal sense, within two or three minutes, the United States will cease to exist.
    Even with such weapons, the United States will not be able to use it against Russia.
    Russia is located on the Eurasian continent, where the main, indigenous part of its territory, on which most of the population is located, is remote from ocean and sea spaces. At the same time, the average height above sea level practically guarantees protection from flooding even with large-scale catastrophic phenomena accompanied by powerful tsunamis.
    A different picture in the United States. In coastal areas with a slight excess above the ocean, the main part of the population is located - more than 80 percent. The main production capacities of the country are also located here. Even relatively weak tsunamis, a few tens of meters high, can lead to catastrophic consequences for the United States. This was clearly demonstrated by Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans.
    Another geophysical feature of Russia is that the bulk of its territory in Siberia rests on thick (several kilometers) layers of basalt. It is assumed that these platforms were formed as a result of the eruption of the super volcano, which occurred about a quarter of a billion years ago. Therefore, blows, even extremely powerful, will not lead to catastrophic geophysical consequences.
    USA. First of all, the Yellowstone National Park.
    Another vulnerable zone of the United States from a geophysical point of view is San Andreas - a 1300-kilometer-long fault between the Pacific and North American plates. It runs along the coast across the state of California, somewhere overland, and partly underwater. In parallel, goes to the faults of San Gabriel and San Jacinto.
    Finally, we must not forget about the Atlantic and Pacific transform faults. Running parallel to the coastline of the eastern and western coasts of the United States, respectively, they can serve as a source of major tsunamis, which will cause catastrophic damage to considerable depth from the coast.

    The US geophysically is a very vulnerable country.
     
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    Total BS.
    I already addressed this many times. Your superiors should check your work and instruct you to stay within realms of the reality.
     
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    North Korea did not conduct a thermonuclear test, nor do they have any warheads greater than 100 kilotons.

    Not all Trident warheads are 100 kilotons. There are 384 Trident warheads with a 455 kiloton yield. We were just starting production of the 455 kiloton warheads when the Cold War ended and production was halted.

    Our ICBMs currently are loaded with 300 kiloton warheads. But they are easily capable of carrying 1.2 megaton warheads.

    The RS-28 will not have a 50 megaton yield. It is limited by treaty to a maximum of ten warheads, and those warheads will be less than a megaton.

    Further, if Russia dramatically increases the number of large warheads that it has deployed, the US will counter by resuming the production of 455 kiloton warheads. It will not take long for our SLBMs to carry a full complement of 455 kiloton warheads if Russia goes down this path.

    We can go back to 1.2 megaton warheads on our ICBMs too if we have to.

    I expect that Russia merely plans to deploy enough of these missiles to replicate the current capability of the SS-18s and 19s when they are retired. But we are more than able to respond in kind if they choose to increase the power of their arsenal.

    Russia's concentration of so many warheads in a single silo is actually a sign of weakness. A pair of American warheads hitting one Russian silo will destroy ten Russian warheads. As soon as war breaks out, all those large Russian silos are going to become craters.

    America and Russia are limited by treaty to the same number of warheads regardless of how many warheads are concentrated in each silo. Spreading our weapons out so that each silo holds a single warhead makes our nukes secure against attack. Two Russian warheads striking an American silo will destroy only one American warhead.

    Russia would do the same as us if they could, but they cannot afford to do so, so they are stuck cramming ten warheads into a single silo so that we can easily destroy them.

    I think Leningrad (whatever you call it now) will make a nice hot fire when it is nuked.
     
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    Looks like Russia is entering in the arms race with US and NATO. 1.8% of worlds economy against 50% of worlds economy. He he, good luck.... Any guesses, when it will end like last time, when Russia received US humanitarian aid for Russia citizens?
     
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    Lol...."how many wars russias started"??

    We can be here a while on that topic.....afghanistan, cuban missile crisis, invasions of georgia, Ukraine to start with.

    Russia a peacemaker....lol.....sure, and Mandela was a white supremacist.

    Why is it you vatniks constantly brag about your "pieces?
    Is it your "inferiority complex" coming through again....LOL:)).
     
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    If it were to ever come to war between the US and Russia, I want to thank you now for making it possible for me to accept the deaths of 100s of 1000s of Russians as necessary.
     
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    It is the US/NATO that destabilized nuclear detente which force Russia to take counter measure. This was extremely irritating at the time (when we went away from the MAD doctrine during Reagan) and the fruits of this madness are now ripening.
     
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    Your 50% is the economy of dog hairdressers, facebook and financial speculation. In other words, your economy is a bubble.
     
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    That still makes yours look like a weekend flea market by comparison...
     
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    Why? Because you said so? So as i understand economy of US, Germany or France mostly contains of dog hairdressers? And what is in these 1.8 % Russia share?
     
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    Does it matter? We can both destroy the world.
     
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    Who needs nukes to destroy the world ?

    Socialism and PC multiculturalism seems to be doing a pretty good job at it.
     
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    If you look at per capita GDP, you will see that Russia is ahead of China. If you did not know, China at purchasing power parity is the first economy in the world.
    The United States and even more so Canada are not the first on the list. And not the second, and not the third, and even not 5 or 6.
    In addition, I have many times explained that GDP is a fake figure that harbors the pride of idiots. And the author of the term "GDP", Simon Kuznets, also says that this indicator is a false. But you, with a stubbornness worthy of donkeys, continue to refer to the fake.:roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
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    So Russia is number one economy in the world? :D From which federal TV channel you get this kind of information, Россия 1, НТВ, РТР, Первый канал or from РЕН ТВ together with tells about alien conspiracy? :)

    So economists, statistics, politics and businessman who use this indicator are idiots, only you are so smart and know the truth? Truly expert in the all questions in the world, I bet you work in some kind of an elite scientific center for the genius people in Russia?

    And you can explain by yourself, why GDP is fake? It's because for Russia its low? :) Or you so smart that you can't explain this?
     
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    Yes.

    I explain the one hundred thousandth time.
    For example. You are the owner of a car factory and produce cars. For the production of the car, you buy a spare part through several intermediaries. For you, the price of spare parts will be expensive. Hence the price of your car will be expensive. GDP is growing.
    But if you buy spare parts directly from the manufacturer, the price of spare parts will be low. The price of your car will be low. GDP is falling.
    Another example. You built a dog kennel. Then you sold it for $ 100. The buyer sold it again for $ 200, ... Then again, again and again this kennel was resold for profit. GDP grew. But the dog kennel was alone, and remained alone. At the same time, the GDP indicator has a very high growth.
     

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