This guy's not alone...

It is a pity you fail to comprehend my comment. I was not painting the right with a broad brush but those who have been sucked in by the con man and are, as you aptly described, "complacent, gullible, stupid and unable to think for themselves.....Truth is invisible and unrecognizable to such people; they thrive only on convenient ignorance." The never Trumpers on the right do not fit the description. If you think I am irrational, then your view of reality is badly distorted and probably beyond repair.

 

And from you no apology for spreading disinformation and will carry on to your next bogus post?

 

You haven't been right on anything yet.
Why don't we back down to questions less complicated, like whether rain is actually water or not.
The contrast in politics right now is a gap not just perception but in honesty- the willingness to recognize truth, and that gap is far wider than any in my lifetime. Since I remember Harry Truman, i've seen quite a bit. It's also more ludicrous. The left is literally running a nationwide, full court press gaslight scheme, pretending reality isn't there and others are crazy for seeing it.

It's having some success too- and you have no idea that is working so well on you. Seems far more effective on their followers than their critics.

People endorsing Trump are well aware of his flaws, but also aware that there is no one else that can come close to doing the job. That is full-spectrum examination, not blind loyalty. Fox hosts for example regularly have criticism of Trump, seeing both the positives and the negatives. His critics on the other side never see a positive no matter how significant it is, will distort anything good or possible into a negative. THEY are the blind, gullible ones, unable to think for themselves, because they can see nothing but one side of every issue, always bent into something negative. The world isn't that way, and neither is Trump. However, leftists seem to be so, consistently. That's a choice, not a birth defect. I hold them accountable for lying to themselves.

 

Honesty? Truth? Trump has made over 19,000 false or misleading statements since taking office. Who are the gullible ones? Not the never Trumpers they know incompetence when they see it.
Painting the left with your partisan broad brush is more evidence your view of reality is distorted and I think beyond repair.

 

EVERY politician- or ordinary person on the street- makes comments everyday that can be construed to be untrue. Somebody will always do that to any statement; the people who hate Trump will do so about every comment they can, representing it to mean something it never did and therefore is a lie or untruth. Sole purpose- to bash the president, support the left who has turned lies and deceit and agitation into a high art form.

Most of these comments are neither about major issues, nor do they have any real impact on the outcome of anything. They change nothing.
However when a politician contrives a lie- or tries to make a lie out of someone else's statement in a way that is designed to mislead, and particularly intended to gain some political advantage, THEN I take issue with their integrity, their morality, there right to be considered an honorable citizen.

I can think of a at least a dozen democrats in congress who far outrank Trump is doing this, not to mention dozens of imitation journalists hoping to gain ratings and of course money, by fanning the flames of discontent. People willing to totally discard their sworn duty for any political edge at all or discard the ethics of their profession for publicity. Trump is temporary, he has term limits. Congress doesn't. Trump wants to leave a legacy of success- that is all he can gain from his position; a respected place in history by what he is able to accomplish for the nation. Congress however has no such limitation, members want to gain control over most everything- including you and your future, and that will bring them power, money, and the ability to retain office to continue building power and money.

It's not that difficult to understand, but you have to think a little harder than you are, and lay down some of the prejudice that the MSM has been spoon-feeding you for the last few years.

 

A very apt description of the Twilight Zone World the Dems/Left have created. It is cynically manufactured chaos that borrows from Kafka, Orwell and Alinsky to promote their perverse agenda. One day one of them said let's all go effing crazy and they all did.

 

When a politician lies you "take issue with their integrity, their morality, there right to be considered an honorable citizen" and not Trump? When will the rationalizations stop? Oh. while you are rationalizing, explain away the ex cabinet Republicans, active and ex-military, the growing list of GOP anti-Trumpers and family members who think he is a Bozo and dangerous for the country. It ain't just the left that can see what he is. Just the rational.

 

People on my side regularly criticize Trump. They don't tell the maniacs on the left, because they will blow anything like that out of proportion and into a big lie. Fox News criticizes the president, too. Conservatives examine their viewpoints frequently, test them against reality. The left- lacks the wisdom as well as the courage to do that, and are convinced, like 16 year old kids, that whatever they think is what's right. Of course- that is precisely what insures they are wrong.

There has never been perfect a president, and never will be. I generally vote for the candidate I think will do the best job, not for the party. Thus I voted for Obama the first term, which I now apologize for, because he was a fraud, not at all what he represented himself to be. I was wrong. One comedy show stated elections are always "a choice between a turd sandwich and a giant ******". That means somebody hates every candidate- but the fact is that most people do not really vote for America's future, they vote for themselves; for their pocket, for privilege, for free ****, for someone who will promises to stick it to whomever for their benefit or satisfaction. Most politicians play to the weakness of the people, an most try to make people weaker- and easier to manipulate. The left is turning that into an art form, apparently thinking it is the only skill they need.

Right now- we are looking at a choice between restoring America, or shooting ourselves in the head. Survival against political disaster, because the number of people who can see beyond their nose and think for themselves has been dwindling for years. It takes strong people to build and maintain a free, strong country- and the left today is like a frat party where most of them are on drugs or in cults, having not a clue as to how to do the job, nor interested in the critical task of hiring a leader who can.. and they talk just like you. Might as well elect one of the arsonists from the riots if that is the mentality you think is leadership.

I once was asked to address a group of teenage boys at a detention center on the concepts of controlling your own life through mental discipline. Extremely powerful and valuable. This is the process of managing your self, building identity and power over your own destiny. Very simple- except for the part about getting rid of the trash you already believe. Should have turned it down, because they didn't care or know about anything beyond themselves and today. That is much like the left today, or certainly, the direction they are going. Devoid of the capacity to accomplish anything except destruction.

So - we don't see what you think you see, your "point". At least, not as you see it, because it's pointless and has no future for anybody including you. It's nonsense noise- not functional reasoning.
Hopefully, we will prevail and save you from the destiny that you now think will be some kind of utopia, where there is no responsibility and everything is free. Or- something like that, whatever your fantasy is.

 

Bogus in what way? Bogus because I refuse to believe in "racial hierarchy"..? Or was it when I mocked Sanders' alleged socialist austerity when I mentioned all his mansions?

 

It sounds familiar because lots of people have been spouting the same kind of rants for decades, if not centuries, often raising almost exactly the same complaints. There are not "guts" in just moaning about everything you don't like though - that's all too easy. The difficult bit is with identifying the causes of the problems (which also includes being realistic and honest about what the real problems actually are, compared to stuff you personally dislike), coming up with practical solutions to them and putting in the effort to see them implemented.

One revelation in that rant is the line "we all support the Constitution but only when it supports our political ideology". The "we" is telling and maybe the author should reflect on that subconscious confession before determining what is actually good, bad or indifferent in the country.

 

Few people cannot see what the author was addressing. At the same time, not enough people realize that the state of government is actually controlled by what we will tolerate, not what we deserve.

 

That's just more of the meaningless ranting and rhetoric. You're not describing the actual real problems you believe exist nor are you explaining how they can actually be resolved, just playing word games. I also don't see what this has to do with any of distinct complaints, allegations or false assertions listed in the letter you quoted in the OP.

 

OF course you don't. Things only turn to crap in a society because people turn a blind eye to the overall effect while they focus their own micro-needs. Social myopia, self-indulgence to the extreme- many ways to describe it. It comes down to failing to recognize problems developing and endangering the vessel you are a passenger on, because you are preoccupied with complaining about the comfort of you seat, and those other things aren't your problem.

 

Amazing meme! I'd like to know the answer. Can someone here answer it?

 

As with the right the left is not monolithic. Your bigoted view that the left as nothing but a "frat party where most of them are on drugs or in cults", while cute, is ultimately deeply ignorant. Your fear laced rant illustrated the intransigence of the opposing philosophies. Liberals, in my opinion, value fairness over order and hierarchy and conservatives believe the opposite. Conservatives tend to ignore or denigrate the complaints of groups that feel wronged to keep the status quo. Liberals tend to side with groups who feel wronged and damn the status quo.

You want to "restore America" apparently to the past. When it was good to be a white men? They had no complaints back then like they do now, but others did.

 

You can make fun of Sanders all you want but lying about him is something different or don't you get it?

 

IF that horses-ass image were not the only one the left presents to the world, we would be happy to acknowledge some common sense among them. It would be refreshing and appreciated.
So long as that is what they demonstrate and primarily support- the fact there may be some rational people in the crowd to intimidated to speak up is irrelevant.
Regardless of what you claim or say- what you do is who you are.
Ask any good psychiatrist or psychologist if that is true or not.

 

Yes they do but they're also prone to seeing injustice where none exists and are disproportionately offended by everything. Liberals blame all of America's ills on white conservatives and ignore the fact that it was white men who spilled blood to liberate us from England and spent the next few centuries building the greatest nation in the history of the world. Liberals who claim to be champions of social justice rarely put their money where their mouth is. They talk a good game but outside of attending protests to be seen and feel good they don't do jack when it comes really helping people. The only white people who do meaningful things in the inner city are the police but liberals so love to vilify them. All of the liberals I know personally seem to have a good deal of unresolved issues from their childhood and mistake the feelings those things generate as empathy and caring for others. These folks have this notion that they are really wonderful human beings because they care so much but do little more than virtue signaling. All of this is all well and good in making them feel good about themselves but it makes mountains out of molehills and only adds to existing problems. Where there is injustice it doesn't help to agitate rather than advocate. I think when white liberals involve themselves in the problems of the black community it demoralizes blacks making them feel even more helpless in solving their own problems and creates more resentment toward whites. As they say the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

 

I see both you and Mr.spiritgide do not have an argument with my thoughts on the differences between the right and left. Telling.

I think I wrote earlier something like conservatives tend to dismiss or minimize complaints of injustice outside their group because that would change the status quo. They have always resisted social change. Women's suffrage, equal rights, women's rights, LGBT rights and more met right-wing resistance. I think it is do to fear of change in their social hierarchy. The status of men in society changed after women received the right to vote. The exclusive status of married heterosexuals changed after gays could marry. With each positive change in the rights of the "other" conservatives felt their status had diminished before most would eventually come to realize it was the right thing to do.

And then there is your laundry list of complaints. I brought up dismissal of complaints of injustice, where in your opinion there is none. Conservatives always had the ability to dismiss an entire group's opinion, be it race, sex, ethnicity as invalid. They have never been correct. Then you go on with baseless accusations, exaggerations, confirmation bias, appeal to patriotism, accusation of poor mental health and lack of integrity, and last but not least MLK was wrong. In total a load of bull, but I hope you feel better.

 

Lying about him owning mansions, or mistaken over the number? So it was three. It's still MANSIONS plural. Nothing austere about that.

 

If you had the capacity to deal with reality, people might talk to you as if you had some degree of validity. But you are unable to even consider what anyone else says- and I think you are only here to stir the pot, to take little emotional trophies by telling yourself you won- it's really a joke.

Who wants to talk to such a person about anything? You rule yourself out of rational discussions. Talking to those who act this way is like trying to discuss advanced physics with a three year old, using their logic and rules. Your thoughts aren't worth discussing in that fashion.

 

In other words you have no evidence to the contrary or counter argument....I get it.

 

"Mansions", "mistaken" number? You seem to be without a moral center.

 

I said all that? You must be a mind reader, I'm impressed. Please give me some examples of my thoughts that you amazingly intercepted.

 

"Yes they do but they're also prone to seeing injustice where none exists and are disproportionately offended by everything. Liberals blame all of America's ills on white conservatives and ignore the fact that it was white men who spilled blood to liberate us from England and spent the next few centuries building the greatest nation in the history of the world. Liberals who claim to be champions of social justice rarely put their money where their mouth is. They talk a good game but outside of attending protests to be seen and feel good they don't do jack when it comes really helping people. The only white people who do meaningful things in the inner city are the police but liberals so love to vilify them. All of the liberals I know personally seem to have a good deal of unresolved issues from their childhood and mistake the feelings those things generate as empathy and caring for others. These folks have this notion that they are really wonderful human beings because they care so much but do little more than virtue signaling. All of this is all well and good in making them feel good about themselves but it makes mountains out of molehills and only adds to existing problems. Where there is injustice it doesn't help to agitate rather than advocate. I think when white liberals involve themselves in the problems of the black community it demoralizes blacks making them feel even more helpless in solving their own problems and creates more resentment toward whites. As they say the road to hell is paved with good intentions."