This interview with Bolton is devastating to Trump

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  1. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Trump supporters are going to argue the following

    1. Dems hated Bolton before and now they love him?
    2. Bolton is a disgruntled man having been fired by Trump and he is 'getting back at him'.

    Okay, on #1, this is irrelevant to the substance of the Bolton interview, noting that Dems still dislike Bolton because he should have done the patriotic thing and testified what he knows to Congress, when he had a chance, but he waited to sell a book. However, that fact doesn't invalidate what is his book and in this interview. At this juncture, for me, that is what is important.

    On #2, Bolton, aside from his controversial political views, is a successful man, he leaves the job knowing that, while we can call Bolton a lot of things, but sycophant isn't one of them, he has working under three presidents in his resume, plus being an author of books, lecture, and so forth, and this idea it's 'getting back at Trump for being fired' is ridiculous and there is no way being fired by Trump is a stigma, and Bolton knows this, so this point is absurd.

    So, Bolton's detractors insofar as his reportage on Trump ( and Putin ) they should try
    and actually refute his presentation, but don't do 1 or 2, those are weak arguments.

    I think Bolton's presentation about Trump is compelling, and reveals very clearly Trump
    is a threat to American National Security because of his incompetence.

     
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    Its not devastating because its July, and due to liberal 'all negative, all the time' whatever is or isn't said now will be forgotten in three days or less. All the silly negativity has become white noise by now anyway, which means there is literally nothing new that can be said that will matter. What will matter are two things, the economy and how successful liberal fearmongering is come the fall...
     
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    Trump National Security advisor Bolton bad. Trump tell all book author Bolton good. See how that works in the so called fair and balanced news?
     
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    Trump is all criminal all the time.

    Thank God it's only July. Trump has done so many dishonest, incompetent and criminal things that four months is barely enough to list them to the American people. Only problem is there will likely not be enough time to include ALL the crimes, dishonesty and incompetence he will commit in the next four months.
     
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    Who is going to remember Bolton's book in three months. Not many people are going to be driving to the polling station and saying "I was going to vote for Trump but then I read Bolton's book. I'm voting for the shampoo bon vivant".
     
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    Bolton should take his book profits and retire. Won't be long before some little weasel writes a tell all book about him.
     
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    Oh crap! Trump is done! Impeach him! Good work OP! This is the one that gets him!.
     
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    Speaking of all bs all the time...
     
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    In three months Trump will have committed three more months worth of stupidity, incompetence and criminal activity. So it won't matter that they don't remember. They will remember that there has not been a single day in this administration in which Trump took a leave of absence from his stupidity, incompetence and criminal activity.

    But I'm fascinated that the right no longer has any way to defend Trump. All they do now is hope that people won't remember his crimes when they are voting. Which is unlikely given that he keeps committing them.
     
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    That you believe all this is fascinating.
     
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    He's fascinating. Most of the political Borg are.
     
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    Oh! So sorry to hear that not everybody appreciates the poetic beauty of a corrupt regime falling apart
     
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    Except it's not. You bought into the false narrative. You know, even all that "research" you do.
     
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    Okay, this is getting out of hand. How can Trump have already stolen the 2020 election and have a regime that is falling apart at the same time? He's going to be put in jail while at the same time they claim he's never leaving the White House. He's an idiot but rigged two elections. He and Putin are best buddies but Putin is making him look bad by putting bounties on US soldiers heads. Would someone PLEASE give the democrats their Risperdal.
     
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    Does reading Dr. Suess really count as "research"?
     
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    This Trump hysteria is out of control, forget the russians! This snowball is rolling all on it's own now.
     
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    "Plays Trump like a fiddle"
    Actuality: US troops on the Russian border.

    Little neo-con is just upset we're not bombing them yet.
     
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    Isn't it amazing? The guy is so incompetent that he can't even cheat right.

    Seriously... the guy still has a good chance to cheat himself into re-election. He has no scruples and we don't know what October surprise he's fabricating for us. But right now his campaign is in a shambles. And he is definitely preparing the most elaborate voter suppression in history. But I think Democrats are at a margin where they can fend that off. If in October all he can come up with are the usual pseudo-scandals like Burisma, Tara Reade or "he's too old"... I will be able to say that this is in the bag. But we can not underestimate the lack of scruples of a sociopath.

    See? This is what gives me the most optimism. Idiotic strawman arguments like this might look great when Hannity or Tucker uses them. But they don't work with moderately intelligent voters. Because they know that Trump doesn't look bad because of the bounty. To Americans who are truly patriotic (not the fake ones of which he has plenty in his ranks) he looks like a traitor because of his lack of response to the bounty. That's his problem. And if he had taken action immediately he might have stopped the fallout. But now he's taken too long.
     
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    If he wins in November put on your helmet, grab a beer and put your feet up. It will be a bumpy delicious explosion.
     
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    Yeah! It's out of Trump's control Because his criminal actions are out of control. And when dictators lose control, that's when they fall!
     
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    Okay, pray tell what should the response be/have been? So, do we want to get into a national war with Joe Biden as President? That would actually be the same thing that Obama did with the sanctions, it would be poetic. On Trump's last days, send a few missiles into Moscow, give some halfassed legitimization and hand it off to Biden.
     
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    C'mon! Seriously? Share some of this "research"!
     
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    Now he's a dictator. You just can't make this stuff up.
     
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    Obviously he is making it up. Maybe he is a russian?
     
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    LOL

    Must be.
     

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