This is how it starts.

I gave you documented examples of the Democrat's power grab and attempts to undermine democracy.

 

What you gave me are baseless, fantastical, fever swamp allegations with absolutely no basis in truth.

Among the dozens of election reform laws changing rules regarding how voters cast ballots, several have also diminished secretaries of states' authority over elections or shifted aspects of election administration to highly partisan bodies, such as state legislators themselves or unevenly bipartisan election boards.

"Inserting partisan actors into election administration ... is really a worrying trend when you understand it in the context of what happened in 2020," said Jessica Marsden, counsel for Protect Democracy, a nonprofit founded by former executive branch officials in the White House Counsel's Office and Department of Justice.

 

Darth, man. Seriously? The ONLY reason that more people opted to use mail-in ballots was because of COVID. That's it. I would totally have your back if you would stop trying to claim a very normal and self-protective move during a pandemic lead to more eligible voters choosing to not risk the lines and close quarters at the poll. All Orange Jesus did is lob onto that and twist it in his stupid head and make y'all believe he is being persecuted.

He got fired for not doing his job. Everybody else on the planet has that risk. Do what we pay you to do or get the hell out. Employment Law 101.

 

and if I logged my work time on ancient paper scrolls instead of electronically, those hours could easily be fudged
Thanks for backing up my point

 

Yes, that could probably happen. My point being you are completely overlooking the *real* reason that many registered voters did NOT want to go to their polling places in November.

I am more than willing to read anything or consider anything regarding this issue. To date, I have neither seen nor heard about anything even remotely close to "widespread election fraud." And, you are being not only short-sighted but neglectful by trying to pretend those special circumstances had anything to do with anything other than people's concerns about the pandemic (which was NOT under control at that time).

 

This isn’t about WHY they went to paper. Obviously it was covid related. This is about paper being way easier to exploit

 

OK. However, that exploitation (whatever percentage you perceive that to be) is not *unique* to the presidential election in November 2020.

And, going back to 2016, when Trump also claimed their was election fraud begs the question "Why didn't he address this issue then?" Or, was it NOT an issue then because it worked in his favor?

It can't be both ways. Either there was widespread election fraud then (and he chose to ignore it) or there was relatively the same ratio of voter fraud in 2020 (and he wants everybody running in the streets screaming with their hair on fire that he's being targeted). Either way he's a manipulative liar and hypocrite.

 

What you gave me are baseless, fantastical, fever swamp allegations with absolutely no basis in truth.

 

Michigan Republicans Are Quietly Replacing Officials Who Certify Vote Totals

Like lots of other rank-and-file Republicans, Robert Boyd has his doubts about the integrity of the last election, particularly in his home state of Michigan — and particularly in Detroit’s TCF Center, where the city’s votes were counted last year despite a concerted effort from local Republicans to disrupt the counting process.

“People saw ballots come in the back door, so, you know, there were cameras in there that people weren’t aware of, that were there,” Boyd told TPM over the phone Tuesday. “They had a bunch hiding under the table. It was not a very pleasant thing to see.”

But there’s a big difference between Boyd and others who may share his view: The 73-year-old Rockwood, Michigan resident is the newest member of the four-person Wayne County Board of Canvassers, the body responsible for certifying vote totals for Detroit and the surrounding area.

He’s one of several new members of such boards around the state, chosen by local Republican leaders, who are replacing incumbents who voted to certify the last election under immense, nationwide pressure from their party. The Detroit News first reported on the wave of replacements last week, including incumbents who wanted to be renominated but weren’t.
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/...y-replacing-officials-who-certify-vote-totals

 

Polly want a cracker?

 

republicans are a dying party, they are clawing at any way to remain in power, even cheating if they have too

 

so illegal vote for Trump, hand slap

wonder what he would have got had he voted for Biden

"he will not be allowed to vote in an election for four years "

only 4 years?

republicans would be non-stop about this if dead voters were voting for Biden, but turns out they are voting for Trump

 

Ain't it the truth?

 

Do you know what you are talking about? The "Trump campaign," is not being investigated, as far as I know. Care to share a link to let us all in on this, or is it something secret, only for the chosen ones to know about? Or maybe you are referring to the Committee investigating January 6th? That is actually an investigation of a massive Trump rally that turned into an attack on the Capitol, while Congress was in session (in the midst of certifying the Electoral Vote tally, to declare Joe Biden, President Elect-- not coincidentally). Not strictly an investigation of Trump (and certainly not his "campaign") but he was the one who called his supporters to Washington at that particular time & day, and spoke to them, and also spoke to at least Kevin McCarthy, during the attack, and also reportedly watched the attack on tv, but never appealed to the rioters to stop, or called up any forces to help support the Capitol Police. So, sure, they would like to speak with Trump, and members of his staff who'd seen & interacted with Trump, to get their perspectives-- that's just common sense.

Oh, you must have been thinking about the subpoena of Steve Bannon, when you said the Trump campaign was under investigation. You know, they say that a little bit of knowledge can be a dangerous thing. I will not go that far, but will point out that it has obviously proven to be a confusing thing, to you. You might wish to try to watch, or listen, or read through an entire story, from time to time. But the reason that Bannon is a person of interest is not just because he communicated with Trump, but because he was promoting the 1/6 rally on his podcast, or whatever, and was saying things that suggested he was anticipating some kind of conflict, which did later occur. Do you not see it as reasonable to inquire as to where he got his information about this future event?

Or does your line, that the investigation is, "based on lies, innuendo, and gossip," mean that you believe that nothing actually occurred? Because the Congresses knowledge of this event comes from witnessing it, firsthand. And tens of millions watched it live, on tv. And there are hundreds of hours of video, made by the rioters, themselves.

I just realized that this post is a waste of time; you obviously are not interested in knowledge of the facts, but only want to believe your chosen, "truth."

 

@Lee Atwater

Kudos on bringing together all these related pieces, but I did not see you make mention that the Republican candidates for Secretary of State, the top elections official, in two of the close, swing states-- Michigan and Arizona-- are both associated with the Q-Anon movement; I believe they are both attending one of their events, this weekend.

 

I don't think any honorable person can believe a load of crap like that, nor would dump it on the American people. That takes someone either deluded or that has no morals and hates their own country.
In the midst of this ongoing disaster, their charade continues- and they deny anything is wrong. Why would anyone with a functional, rational mind mirror that?

IF trump had committed 10% of the crimes and frauds the left is openly perpetrating on the American citizens today- the left would have been building guillotines. Not because they dislike the damage- but because Trump was doing it instead of them. But Trump did just the opposite- and so, they are compelled to do the opposite, regardless of consequences. Thus, we have an invasion of our nation's southern border, encouraged, instigated and abetted by the Biden administration, in undeniable violation of federal law... and the left has no problem with that.

To have people who think that way claim to be Americans is an insult to all Americans, living and past. They bring great shame to this nation.

 

It's just another sign of how the POT continues to deteriorate in to a clown car party.

 

AUSTIN, Texas (AP) — Republican Texas Gov. Greg Abbott on Monday signed redrawn voting maps that pave a safer path for the GOP’s slipping majority, leaving opponents hoping courts will block the newly gerrymandered districts before they can be used in the 2022 elections.

Abbott signed the maps Monday, according to a spokeswoman for the governor. The governor’s office did not make an announcement.

Civil rights groups have already filed federal lawsuits that accuse GOP mapmakers of disenfranchising Hispanic and Black residents who are driving the state’s rapid growth. Texas added 4 million new residents since 2010, but under the new U.S. House maps, Republicans added no new districts where Latinos hold a majority.
https://apnews.com/article/election...oting-rights-e9521a6eb4d93ac4a874fc7f27e834e3

POT cheating continues unabated.

 

What is disconcerting is just how many voters are squeezing into it.