This is the most bizarre conversation I have ever witnessed in the Oval Office

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  1. Sandy Shanks

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    You waited so long to bring up Clinton. As a Trump supporter, the last person you want to talk about is Trump. Usually, you bring up one the Clintons right away.

    Maybe you did, but since it was irrelevant, it was forgotten.
     
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    He is a mentally disturbed rapper. You have not read the posts that provide the links that indicate this.

    So, according to you, I am smearing West because I told the truth about him.

    That's like accusing me of hate because I accurately record what Trump says and does without challenge from Trump fans.

    Tell me something, why is mental illness a smear campaign?
     
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    If you are ignorant about the issues you are discussing and you readily admit it, when I draw attention to that fact, it is not an insult. It is, well, a fact.

    Don't take it personal.
     
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    Consider the daily trash talk against Trump as part of a mental illness problem. When people obsess over Trump, something is out of balance.
     
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    Exactly. Thank you, Robert. This catastrophe struck our country, much like 9/11. While I did not physically suffer, I, like the vast majority of Americans, felt empathy for what was happening to our country and Americans living on the panhandle.

    As Floridians were living through a disaster and searching for the dead, Trump didn't seem to care. He was busy listening to a ten minute monologue that praised his leadership and was being broadcast on national television per his wishes. Going from the wasteland of Mexico Beach and Panama City to the Oval Office and this bizarre photo op was a shock.

    You felt the same as Trump, and you readily admit it. "i was at home in nice warm weather."

    Robert, you have lost what it means to be an American. Judging from their posts on this thread, it is safe to say that is also true of most Trump supporters. Most, if not all, are totally insensitive to what happened to Americans living on the Florida panhandle. A number of others, living in Georgia and Virginia were affected as well. Five were killed in Virginia. Did they care? Do you care, Robert? I don't see it.
     
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    Probably time to let it go.
     
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    There is a derangement syndrome called Trump Derangement Syndrome. Does not matter where it happens, what happened, who was talking, the TDS people constantly stake their entire being, their premise for living .... all on what Trump does, says or thinks.

    I don't play that game.

    Trump could have yanked out his hair, screamed at the sky how unfair that hurricane was, how lousy it is a few lost their lives and the TDS people do not care. This is not about Trump, it is about why TDS people lock in on one human and try to portray him as central to their own lives.

    I see nobody in the Panhandle crying bloody murder that an entertainer gave Trump a piece of his mind.

    I see TDS types going bat crap crazy.
     
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    Well said. The fixation on the man in the WH by some is remarkable.
    BTW nice avatar. I am sure your friend would be happy to know you honored him.
     
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    Just like you forgot this!
     
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    "He is a mentally disturbed rapper." Sandy That is just ad hominem used in place of substantive rebuttal.
    A tactic that is used so often now that it has lost much of its effectiveness.
     
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    Thank you so much. It was taken off his obituary. He and i played a lot of Chess when we were school mates. He used to beat the tar out of me. Finally as i got good, i then beat him a lot more than he won. He sharpened me up that much.
     
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    I said, "As Floridians were living through a disaster and searching for the dead, Trump didn't seem to care. He was busy listening to a ten minute monologue that praised his leadership and was being broadcast on national television per his wishes. Going from the wasteland of Mexico Beach and Panama City to the Oval Office and this bizarre photo op was a shock.

    "You felt the same as Trump, and you readily admit it. "i was at home in nice warm weather."

    "Robert, you have lost what it means to be an American. Judging from their posts on this thread, it is safe to say that is also true of most Trump supporters. Most, if not all, are totally insensitive to what happened to Americans living on the Florida panhandle. A number of others, living in Georgia and Virginia were affected as well. Five were killed in Virginia. Did they care? Do you care, Robert? I don't see it."

    You did not disagree with anything I said. You can't even defend yourself because you know what I said was true. I used your own words.
     
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    This catastrophe struck our country. Much like 9/11, the damage was extensive. While I did not physically suffer, I, like the vast majority of Americans, felt empathy for what was happening to our country and Americans living on the panhandle.

    As Floridians were living through a disaster and searching for the dead, Trump didn't seem to care. He was busy listening to a ten minute monologue that praised his leadership and was being broadcast on national television per his wishes. Last Thursday as I watch the news program, going from the wasteland of Mexico Beach and Panama City to the Oval Office and this bizarre photo op was a shock.

    Trump's cult felt the same as Trump. They simply did not care.

    They have lost what it means to be an American. That assessment is based on their posts on this thread. Most, if not all, are totally insensitive to what happened to Americans living on the Florida panhandle. A number of others, living in Georgia and Virginia were affected as well. The death toll is now 31. Did they care? I don't see it.

    Here are representative posts from members of Trump's base.

    Wheee!

    Now mental illness is an ad hominem according to this Trumpster.
     
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    Those representative posts of Trump's base were written by just a few Americans that are going to "buck" the globalist establishment well past 2020. Get used to it Sandy.
     
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    TDS Sandy. And you have it in enormous doses. And sadly you seem not to be aware of it. I never compared myself to Trump. His days are loaded with elegance, pomp and decisions. I said I enjoyed a nice day. I think you admit you too had one.

    I am American but I sure don't have TDS as I see posters having. It is more like I do not agree with the rant by the OP.
     
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    Have you reviewed Kanye West's medical records?
     
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    I took a semester of psychology in college just to know a bit about the topic. I would never, not in a million years, try to diagnose any other human based on things seen on TV or reported by reporters. The TV and reporters are on a destroy mission. They deny it, but they actually are. I am persuaded of it. I read this AM about the accosting of Kushner on a commercial flight by a reporter and how the Secret Service told the man to knock it off. If they find a person in the shower they will try to pose very unfair questions and demand answers.
     
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    Yes, I know. Trump and his base want a return to America's nationalism and isolationism of the 1930's. The result of that policy -- World War Two.

    During the 20th Century, nationalism in Germany and Japan caused the two worst wars of man's history on Earth, World Wars One and Two.

    Globalism of the late 20th Century and early 21st Century encourages nations to work together for each other's benefit. During the period of pax humana following WWII, while there have been sectional wars, there has never been a WWIII. For the first time in its history, Europe has experienced over 70 years of peace.

    Trump and his minions want to turn back the clock and return to 20th Century nationalism. MAGA. Trump doesn't seem to realize that spending a few millions for world peace will prevent spending trillions if a major war takes place. Due to his incompetence and inexperience, he thinks short term, not long term.
     
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    You are calling out the Democrats spiel leading up to WW2 in case you forgot who you smeared. FDR indeed was nationalist. I frankly do not chide him over that part. This is like a Father saying he puts his wife and children first and not some bozo living down the highway from his home. Too many fathers do not put the family first and that happens in part due to democrats political tricks.

    Germany and Japan and italy were clearly the bad culprits back of WW2 but our side could have taken steps to ward it off. Stoking Japan with steel and oil blockades was good but not enough.

    FDR did not take them serious as had Churchill. Nations should get those benefits as a side condition. Not the primary mission of Nation A to boost Nation B. Car dealers get benefits when we buy new cars. We get benefits of the new car. It is called win win. Trump is not interested in turning back Europe. We would claim peace had Wilson stayed out of Europe's war called WW1. FDR screwed up Hawaii by making the small shallow port at Pearl Harbor a storehouse of trapped ships. No wonder the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor. To Japan that harbor was a sitting duck. Some allege FDR planned it like that to get us into WW2. Make it easier for the Japs to hit us to cause war. FDR overruled his admirals by putting those ships there. They warned him not to do it.

    Democrats are all pissed off at the idea of making America Great. They believe it was the best ever ??? when? Today? MAGA is working. and this the Democrats resent.
     
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    Kanye West, James Brown and President Trump are showing the black community that they have a President who will work FOR them - this isn't a fake southern accent and a line of crap - this is the real thing - and it's scaring the crap out of the extremists who have always considered the blacks as a bought vote. Right now the polls say 36% of male blacks, but how many "other" blacks will keep their mouths shut to stay out of the firing line - and vote for Trump.

    Here's the issue - President Trump is working to better the lives of ALL Americans - black white and everyone else - and he's winning!

    Get over it!
     
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    Here is why I do not give one damn about West talking to Trump. Trump listens. Did you notice in the Video he was actually listening? West ranged widely over his topics. For this it gets called a rant. Well he covered the bases of what he had to say. A lot of presidents would nod off and not listen. Trump listens. Does that imply Trump grants all of West's wishes? I do not see how he could do that. But West will tell his friends how nice Trump is to him and over time his pals might spread the word and so forth. Trump is reaching out. Sandy is angry that Trump reaches out. And Sandy needs not to worry so much about 10 minutes. That time was pretty well spent.

    When Democrats and their sycophants quit with the Trump rage, they may learn to do what West did and simply talk to Trump. They probably will learn a lot more that way than by all the propaganda they can toss at him.
     
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    Globalism of the 21st century does not have to mean we share our wealth with other nations. Europe can work out it's own defense or at least pay it's share. Nationalism in Germany with a Nazi Regime is what led to WWII. Are you implying we are going to take that course? That's absurd.
    Donald Trump is far more competent than you and he has far more experience than you....yet you play like you know better. It's not very becoming of you..:roll:
     
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    A point often overlooked is the recent tax cut that limited the SALT deductions to $10,000 - if the Democrats had worked with the Republicans instead of obstructing them, the SALT deduction may have had a higher ceiling.
     
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    Once again, Robert, you can't challenge what I wrote. You can't even defend yourself. Simply calling it TDS doesn't do it.

    What Trumpsters call TDS, others call it reality.

    That is true because, primarily, Trumpsters rarely challenge TDS -- just as you failed to do here.
     
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    You just want me to waste time. Look for it on this thread as I have said a few times.

    Strange how Trumpsters use ignorance to support Trump. Never could understand that.
     

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