This should shock us all

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  1. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    The video below captures images from 2011 to 2017. In light of the death of a 7 year old by dehydration, we should all be shocked. It's nothing new that our boarder agents have been putting children's life in danger.

    They destroy caches of water. Left there so immigrants crossing the desert don't die of dehydration.

    Everybody needs to protest. It's non-partisan. This administration, the previous administration.... and who knows how many before that are to blame for this child's death. So everybody should be together demanding that this stops!

     
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    There is a water fountain at the port of entry.
     
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    As they rightly should. It is a crime to Illegally enter the United States. You don't get to aid criminals.

    I'd compromise and take the water to some sort of homeless shelter.
     
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    Get a grip.

    She didn't die of dehydration.

    Fake news + using the death of a child as a political football = loss of credibility.
     
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    In fairness, we don't know what she died of. No autopsy has been done. But the evidence we have is being misinterpreted, perhaps deliberately, to create a news story.

    I don't blame this on HumblePi, I blame if on WaPo who deliberately omitted septic shock from the list of causes in their first paragraph, instead burying the truth which makes their whole article BS toward the end.
     
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    She could have applied for asylum at any US consulate. I am disgusted that parents will drag their children across desserts to pray on the sympathies of Americans. And I am appalled at the existence of water caches for people who wish to break the law. The people creating them should be arrested for contributing to a criminal Enterprise.
     
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    Those water caches are for drug runners who carry heavy loads and can't carry water
     
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    The death of a child is obviously terrible, but her death falls squarely on her Fathers shoulders regardless of what she died from. HE was responsible for her welfare and she died in his care....sad but true regardless of what he runs from.
     
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    What we should demand is border security.
     
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    I find it shocking that people actually take the time to leave water for illegal immigrants. I don't find it shocking or even upsetting that border patrol agents destroy them. Not that I want illegal immigrants to die of thirst but I don't blame border patrol for getting rid of something that will encourage more illegal immigration.
     
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    Exactly -- it's like leaving the keys to a bank at the front door. The MSM is hyping this type story to embarrass Trump. Don't fall for this syrupy reporting like the OP did. If we had solid border security the illegals would stay home. Many problems solved.
     
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    Is that Jesus in uniform? Must be.....
     
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    Sick! A 7 year old girl died because of dehydration, while she was under the custody of boarder agents. And your only worry is that somebody might respond to this thread?
     
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    You kill them? From dehydration? Like they killed that 7 year old?
     
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    I can't decide what is worse: the way what these guys call "news" keeps them in eternal ignorance, or their xenophobia and disdain of human life. Which is worse?

    More than eight hours later, the child began having seizures at 6:25 a.m., CBP records show. Emergency responders, who arrived soon after, measured her body temperature at 105.7 degrees, and according to a statement from CBP, she “reportedly had not eaten or consumed water for several days.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...6a6f3ce8199_story.html?utm_term=.5c73a408b457
     
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    That is not humanity operating there. One would have to be some kind of sadistic rat bastard to do that. If they are already at that point, how do you deny any living creature water?!!!!
     
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    Wrong! They are left there by humanitarian groups.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...r-patrol-sabotage-aid-migrants-mexico-arizona

    n a report published on Wednesday, the Tucson-based groups said the agents committed the alleged sabotage with impunity in an attempt to deter and punish people who illegally cross from Mexico.

    Volunteers found water gallons vandalised 415 times, on average twice a week, in an 800 sq mile patch of Sonoran desert south-west of Tucson, from March 2012 to December 2015, the report said. The damage affected 3,586 gallons.​

    http://www.thedisappearedreport.org/uploads/8/3/5/1/83515082/disappeared_report_part_2.pdf

    https://humaneborders.org/
     
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    She died of dehydration and septic shock. Septic shock doesnt occur in hours, it happens over days, and can cause inability to retain water, which can lead to dehydration regardless of how much she drank.

    Whats certain is that she was obviously sick way before she got to the border, and anyone she was with was more concerned with getting there than getting her help.

    Its possible that she died from maltreatment or neglect by border guards, but its far more likely she was terminal upon arrival and they were unable to save her. We wont likely have the determining facts until the propaganda machine we call 'the media' focusses on some other tragedy.
     
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    I see. So you don't want illegal immigrants to die, but you don't blame those who kill them.
     
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    Are you for real? That is not how most drugs enter the USA.
     
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    She did not drink any during the 8 hours she was under the custody of the boarder patrol. The boarder patrol doesn't know that walking accross the desert causes dehydration?

    And the boarder patrol was more concerned with punishing refugees for having the "audacity" to seek asylum (a human right, BTW) than with saving her life.

    More than 8 hours! She was taken under custody at 10 p.m., and started showing symptoms at 6:25 a.m. And this is not according to the Washington Post. It's according to the boarder patrol's own records.
     
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    My country is filled with violence and is a danger to my kids but I am coming to the USA for a bottle of water. And btw...it is not illegal to seek asylum.
     
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    The bottom line is that this is the responsibility of the parents who endangered her life.

    Politicizing this is repulsive.
     
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    I can't decide which is worse: the parents killing their child, or people trying to use her corpse as a football now.
     
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