This Whole Gender Thing

You still haven't made the case for the existence of "trans people". You can throw out fancy words like "gender dysphoria", but that doesn't change biology into triology.

 

i don't.

and if you're going to ask what my pronouns are, i don't have them, don't refer to me.

 

why the hell have you decided to have opinions about this topic when you don't even know what the hell makes the people you're ******** on different? i'm not going to give you a crash course in **** that a reasonably intelligent adult should know by now. fix your own damn ignorance.

 

You can't just say silly stuff and then expect people to believe you, or they're ignorant of whatever it is you believe to be true.

Do ladyboys know that they're actually male? Yes, of course they do. They're weird, but not stupid. So this whole gender dysphoria thing is BS. A guy might feel like he'd rather have an innie instead of an outie, but that's no different from little girls wishing they were little boys. At the end of the day, they're still guys, and they know it.

 

Why?

 

Source?

XYY Syndrome. Keyword is SYNDROME, meaning it's a genetic disorder.

That doesn't mean that they're not that biological sex.

Anyone who is anything other than XX or XY has a genetic disorder with a proper name. I'm not the one telling them they were born "wrong", I'm telling them that science says they were born with a genetic defect. Scientific consensus is not on your side.

 

Red herring. We're talking about people who are born men who feel like they're women and vice versa, not people who delusionally believe that their penis is actually vagina.

 

Then we're back to wondering how they can have a penis, but feel like a woman.

The biggest problem I see is figuring out how do they know what it feels like to be a woman? They might have a vague idea that involves adopting female names like Mary and Sally and wearing dresses instead of pants, but the same old problem everybody has is that no matter where you go, there you are.

and where they are is a dude with a dick standing in front of a urinal and trying to aim away from his high heels.

hint to sally: you're not a chick.

 

Sex:
either of the two major forms of individuals that occur in many species and that are distinguished respectively as female or male especially on the basis of their reproductive organs and structures

Gender:
the behavioral, cultural, or psychological traits typically associated with one sex

Source:
Merriam Webster's Dictionary

If you are talking about biology there are indeed two sexes (male sex and female sex) and it is immutable. Gender is more of a sociological term for those traits that societies place onto the sexes and we can admit that there are stereotypes and behavioral tendancies in society without admitting they are right or biologically based.

So what does it mean to be a man or a woman? Do we use biological sex or behavioral gender? I think both. We have that biological aspect and the cultural behavioral aspect as well.

 

You demonstrated a complete failure to understand the most basic motivations of the people you're talking about. If you think that trans people hallucinate that they have different genitals, you're a ****ing idiot, and that's just how life is. If you don't understand why trans people transition, save your judgement until you investigate.

"syndrome" just means a set of symptoms or medical signs that occur together, but sure, whatever, if i concede that point to you it makes absolutely no difference in the grand scheme of things

i'm criticizing the model of binary chromosomal genders and your defense is invoking said model instead of defending it. i need a drink.

 

Of course not. The word isn't the problem, misapplication of it is what does cause some problems from time to time.

 

That begs the question - how do you know what it feels like to be someone who feels like they're the opposite sex of what they're born? You don't. You assume that it's just a bizarre fashion trend when in reality you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. It's far more complex than you're making it out to be. Gender dysphoria is influenced by hormonal balance, phenotypes, and chromosomal makeup just to name a few.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_transsexuality

Educate yourself

 

So gender is a fashion statement? I was told earlier that it's not just a bizarre fashion, but now we have good ol' Webster's saying that gender is a social construct. As a social construct, it is true that men and women present themselves differently. Little differences like how we cross our legs or speech patterns is true for a particular time and location, as are names. When Bruce changed his name to Caitlyn, that was a fashion statement based upon time and location. He didn't change it to Mable or Pearl because those are from an earlier time. When he put that dress on for that magazine, he didn't get dressed up in Scarlett Ohara's hoop skirt, but in something that is fashionable in the states right now.

 

Begging the question is circular logic in that the conclusion is based on a premise. I asked a simple question with no conclusion. How does a guy know what it feels like to be a woman? He's never been a woman, so there is no experience to draw upon. It's not like waking up with a hangover. I woke up with one last week, so if I wake up with one tomorrow morning, I have the experience of what it feels like to have a hangover, so I can say "I have a hangover".

A lady boy doesn't have that experience to draw upon. He was born a guy, he grew up as a guy, and he's always going to be a guy.

 

No, gender is much more than wearing a dress, and there is much more to the differences between the way men and women act in this culture than just dress. Bruce changed his name to a female name in our culture because he wanted to be seen as a female in this culture. Gender has many layers like sexual preferences, sexual roles, dress, mannerisms, speech, socializing, etc.

 

Why do you care about transsexuals?

 

Evidence?

 

Well of course there's more to it than wearing a dress. You have makeup, no farting in public, figuring out how to walk in heels, body language, etc. etc. etc.

Lots of things go into distinguishing females from males, but this is nothing more than telling me that painting the mona lisa is a bit more difficult than using a paint by numbers kit.

It's still just fashion, as far as I can tell.

 

Liberals are science deniers. Gender is a social construct that is based on biology.

 

Problems such as?

 

Who pees where.

 

And this is a problem for you? Running into a lot of women who identify as men in the men's room are you?

 

Not really, why, would one of them be you?

 

So then it's not a problem. Got it.

 

If there were more than 2 biological sexes then the others wouldn’t be considered genetic disorders, they’d be considered normal