Those who do not learn from history are destined to repeat it

Nothing was learned of the treatment and ridicule of Germany post WW1.

The claim the USA made to the USSR was that if they "torn down the wall" and became Democratic, the Russian Federation would be welcomed into the West and Western wealth. Stupidly, Russians believed us.

Instead, we laughed at Russia with "gotja!," grotesquely interfered in their first true Democratic election, while urging breakaway and civil war in the Russian Federation, while actively starving the Federation down. We then brought Russian states into NATO and in doing so moved our military bases, missiles and bombers even closer to Moscow.

Now such as warmongering McCain and the Democratic Party openly brag of creating Russian poverty and openly hope all Russians freeze and starve to death.

We have been in this gloating situation before - post WW1 and how Germany people were driving into poverty by the schemes and collective efforts of the West.

How many tens of millions of people did this get killed in WW2?

Answer: Not 1/2 of 1% of how many would be killed if the warmongers get their wish for a WW3.

We have made it so our bombers and missiles are so close to the heart of Russia their military much literally have their finger over nuclear launch buttons every second of every day. We have military forces at Russia's border ready to invade at anytime. As a result, Russian nationalism is growing off the charts and Russia is poised for an economic boom in selling gas to virtually all of Europe and the greatest consumer of fossil fuels of all - China.

So, like post WW1 we have DEMANDED that Russia engage in a massive arms build-up, while China does the same - while our so-called NATO ALLIES are so in debt and so reliant upon the USA that it will remain the budget destroying response costs will land nearly entirely on the USA - which us so in debt already our IOU money is only worth the paper its printed on.

Like prior to WW1 and prior to WW2, the Democratic Party now gleefully and threateningly pushes for WW3 as hard a possible - having no clue that is what they are doing.

In the end, Russia is going to win the economic dispute unless the Democratic Party causes WW3. The growing Persian, non-Arab Muslim, Russia and China alliance will surpass that of the the massively in-debt West militarily due to their massively greater resources, land mass and population numbers. Europeans and Americans are whiny little spoiled brats believing in all their entitlements none of which they earn and all of which they squander.

I would expect no sympathy from the enemies we so gloatingly create. The West forced WW2 to happen. The West is forcing WW3 to happen. The difference is that 1 hour after WW3 starts, 80% of Americans are dead and 99% of the rest are dying. THAT is what the gloating warmongers of the Democratic and Republican Party are creating ASAP.

When Russia gains its natural gas income, Russians will demand a large portion be spend on massive Russian military build up exactly as Germany did as a matter of national pride. Their buildup will be in weapons of mass destruction of every scale, reducing the trillions we spend on conventional forces to meaningless.

 

Well to be fair, 99% of them will be dead also.

Its not like they win that either.

 

Is it raining in Moscow today? Can you look out your window and let me know? Thanks.

 

We are well into pre WW2 1930s status. Russia's annexation of Crimea and Eastern Ukraine - with the West just ranting about it? No different than the early annexations by Germany. In a sense, we are already in WW3, engaged in warfare, alliances and annexations all around Russia and Russia's allies in the West, and to an increasing degree again trying to isolate China including by military force in the East.

 

That is an example of just how ignorant the thinking and debate by so many Democrats has become.

 

Unfortunately that's how it works. Both Germany and Japan fought to virtually total obliteration. Do you think they would have used nuclear weapons if they had them, regardless of the consequences on themselves? I do.

 

Russia will increasingly pursue recovering the states of their federation we took, regardless of our making them part of NATO - which is absurd conduct on our part.

 

The war between the West and Russia has already begun.

The war in Ukraine is more devastating than you know

The fighting in eastern Ukraine’s Donbas region is entering its fifth year. More than 10,000 people have been killed in this persistent conflict; 2,800 were civilians. Nearly two million people have been internally displaced or put at risk if they remain in their homes.

Today, the Donbas war is among the worst humanitarian crises in the world, with frequent attacks occurring from both sides across the oblasts (provinces) of Donetsk and Luhansk. Before the war, this compact, heavily urbanized and industrialized region held nearly 15 percent of Ukraine’s population (6.6 million) and generated 16 percent of its gross domestic product.

Now it’s a war zone. And our research has documented that, as its hospitals and medical facilities are destroyed — perhaps even targeted — its citizens are being deprived of basic health-care services, echoing Syria’s similar if larger crisis.

So what happened in Ukraine?
Let’s review quickly how that happened.

In 2014, Ukraine was divided between those who wanted to affiliate with Russia and those who leaned toward Europe and NATO. In Kiev, in what was called the Maidan Revolution, the pro-Europe faction overthrew the kleptocratic and Russian-leaning Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...stating-than-you-know/?utm_term=.1a1c92f54167

American military forces in Syria and attacking Syria also is war between the USA and Russia.

 

No it was a rhetorical question specifically aimed at your blatant pro Russian rant.

 

Funny, but you were careful not to mention that Paul Manafort worked for Yanukovich!

But then, this entire rant of yours is intended to avoid mentioning Putin.

 

Russians continue to use social media and "sympathetic spokespeople" to sow discord and divide Americans with misinformation.

"persistent Russian efforts using social media, sympathetic spokespeople and other fronts to sow discord and divisiveness amongst the American people, though not necessarily focused on specific politicians or political campaigns" -- DHS Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen


"[We have] not seen anything, certainly, to the degree of 2016 in terms of specific hacking of election systems...the intelligence community continues to see Russian activity in the sowing discord across the American public" -- Christopher Krebs, DHS's top cybersecurity official

 

Funny how your rhetoric mirrors the official Pravda Rhetoric to a "T". Again. How's the weather in Moscow today?

 

The lesson we need to learn from history is that free speech must NEVER be restricted! It's our best first defence!

Also students are the first to be indoctrinated so we need to open the campuses back up to free thought before the next generation are completely brain dead.

The last decade of Students have made the best educated McDonald's servers we'll ever have.

Assuming you need to what gender the burger was lol.

 

Can someone pick me up a case of Stoly? Like Trump, I want to help the Russian economy, but unlike him, I'm not willing to drop to my knees to do it.

 

Oh cripes, either neocon cheerleader or Russian.
How fourth grade

 

The Russians are coming !!
The Russians are coming !!

 

The whimpy-ass, lazy and spoiled entitlement attitude of the Western leftwing, the inability of the USA to even have a border on the South, and the unlimited capitalistic greed that is sucking every last debt dollar out of the USA - which manufactures virtually nothing now - does not measure up well against the population, land mass, and growing economic power of the increasing Chinese, Russian and Muslim alliance, during which Europe is a natural resources empty collection of beggars to Russia to not freeze to death - as the USA more and more resembles South America - does not look well for our side over the long haul.

The USA-Western empire ruling the world is coming to an end. I remember a line in a Star Trek episode in which the Captain asked "I wonder if Romans knew their empire was over when the first Visigoths came over the hill?" I suspect no empire sees its demise of its own doing - although most times it was entirely foreseeable. The USA ruled the world, but will be one of the shortest lived great empires and the cause of its own decline.

 

Europeans remember history better than Americans, being how they experienced the results of fascism first hand.

Europeans remember what appeasing a fascist dictator brought about.

That's why Europeans are so united in their opposition to Trump and his goosestepping followers.

 

Certainly that is the claim of the Democratic Party, isn't it?

 

Yes, and turning to Russia instead. But they have no choice anymore but to do so. Western Europe is disarming, surrendering before the war even starts - as it already has done to the Empire of Islam. Besides, Europe is under the EU dictatorship already and throwing away their civil individual rights as fast as possible.

The USA will stand alone in the end having nothing to do with Trump.

 

If you study the buildup of Hitler and Nazis it is similar to Trumps attack on free press and against Americans who demonstrate against Trumps policies.

Trumps weakening of American allies and NATO should concern all citizens

Putin and Russia has become stronger with Trumps actions

 

Never heard so much BS in my life

 

not much depth of thought here...strangle N Korea's economy and impoverish it's people in order to make it's dictator comply is a good plan....strangle the Russian economy to make it's dictator comply is not a good plan?...really?...do you think before you post? ...

 

americans have no experience with the full consequences of authoritarian dictators and all out war, europeans have repeatedly...

 

That is just drivel crap. Putin gained and lost nothing.