Thought Experiment: Divine Being First Cause Problem

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  1. tkolter

    tkolter Well-Known Member

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    Here is the thought experiment:

    1. Assume an average newborn human as an example making this baby immortal and with the divine powers noted by Judeo-Christians.

    2. Put the being in a big box it can be dark or light inside but a big box.

    3. There are no natural laws in place save the baby being, baby god.

    Okay how did it learn anything to the point of being the Perfect Watchmaker.

    I get the all knowing bit will come up that would be logically tied to the experiences of the god-baby as in itself and a dark void.

    Since logically this being popped out of nothingness its a universe of itself.

    Why is this an issue if your a baby born now, even a Chimpanzee, needs others to learn from and in human society this is a wide circle with many sources of learning a culture. Baby-god would have nothing to base learning from even an universe like we have if you follow Judeo-Christian thought (including Jewish Thought and Muslims) there would be itself and well a void of some size it resided in.

    I figure baby-god is more likely to grow up insane not The Great Watchmaker if you take it to a logical base line of thought.
     
  2. tkolter

    tkolter Well-Known Member

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    Come on now, this little thought experiment to much for the people of faith using the Torah as a basis want to take this on? I find it quite a problem for your position and thought about this when watching a show on Chimpanzees when a mother was teaching her son how to use a stick to get termites to eat and had a revelation of my own.

    Or is the concept to hard to understand?
     
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    How? By magic. If you are willing to accept, even for the sake of argument, the existence of the supernatural, then anything can be explained by magic.
     
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    Why would even a baby god need to learn anything?
     
  5. tkolter

    tkolter Well-Known Member

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    Blank Slate. I pointed out a baby may have some instincts a baby alligator is wired for what it does. Higher species that is intelligent enough rely far more on learning from its species as in Chimpanzee parents teaching its offspring key skills. Humans are far more advanced and have a far more advanced set of skills with specializations and a far more advanced society with tiers of sources of learning. So where did baby god learn with NOTHING since it would be baby god and a void kind of limiting.

    A human baby would not become Einstein under the exact same conditions would they assuming it didn't need the normal means to survive.
     

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