thought experiment...what if there were only electric vehicles "now"

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  1. Dirty Rotten Imbecile

    Dirty Rotten Imbecile Active Member

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    On August 21 I travelled from my home in Vancouver B.C down to Salem, Oregon in my 2016 Chevy Volt to view the total eclipse. I have a device in my car that tracks each trip I take, the fuel consumption etc. When leaving Salem to return home, traffic was very heavy. It took us 3 hours 22 minutes to travel 111 km which is 68.9 miles. This is just one leg of the trip.

    At the start of that trip we had 78% of our battery remaining at the end we were at 28%. We used the ICE if we travel faster than about 50km/h. The ICE was used for 49% of the trip.

    We used 3.8 litres of fuel and 6.5 kWh of electricity. Our max speed was 119km/h (74 mph) but average was 33km/h (20 mph)

    (ICE = Internal Combustion Engine)

    Typically I only use my Volt to travel to and from work each day. The trip to work is about 20km (12.5 miles) but through the greater Vancouver area that trip can take anywhere from 25 minutes to 50 minutes depending on time of day. Normally if you spend that much time in slow moving traffic you are going to consume a lot of fuel just waiting for traffic lights to change etc. Each of these trips cost me $0 for fuel consumption whereas I used to spend $300 or more in a month on fuel. (Gas is never less than $1.20/litre in Vancouver which is about $5.50/gallon).

    Since I bought the car In February 2016, I have travelled 23,730 Km (14,745 miles), 19,594 km (12,175 miles) have been using the electric motor. 88% electric/12% ICE.
     
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    However, these people were evacuating from south Florida. An hour of A/C will "drain the battery" some.
     
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    Reads like quackery to me. TANSTAAFL
     
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    Looks like quackery to me. There's no way it can do anything that is claimed. Just based on the laws of thermodynamics, any extra energy generated by the bumps should be negated by the extra energy to drive up the bumps.
     
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    The vehicle is in production.
     
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    Not according to the Manila Times article.

    Again, the mistruths. That's the way con artists work.
     
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    https://cleantechnica.com/2015/05/0...-double-range-regenerative-suspension-system/



     
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    I don't buy it. The numbers are too good. I can buy the 10% mentioned in the article, but 100%, I'd have to see a third party lab do the measurements. I also don't see where they got the 100%. The German manufacturer claims 50%.
    http://www.interpatent.de/unsere_innovationen_strom_aus_der_federung_en.html

    Also, your quotes talk about two different products--the Levant in the first (which claims, what I see as a realistic 10% improvement, and the Intertronic Gesser in the second (which in it's own website claims over 50%, but in the weird quote from your article claims 100%). Please quote more accurately.
     
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    I still don't buy it. I think it's a load of quackery, and until I read of an independent testing lab testing it, I will keep that conclusion. When something seems to good to be true, it usually is.
     

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