Thoughts on Personal Security

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  1. An Taibhse

    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    Funny, I lived for some time in an open carry state on with open carry long before they issued CCPs. I can't recall a single time in an urban area there where I saw anyone carrying a gun on their hip before or after they issued CCPs.. no blood on the streets with open carry and no blood bath after CCPs became available. Go wonder.
     
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    Because of Secret Service.
     
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    I guess people can't be trusted with guns
     
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    certainly not Trump hating liberals
     
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    Maccabee Well-Known Member

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    No, the Secret Service can't trust people with guns. statistically speaking CCW holders commit less crime than the police.
     
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    Yeah.....the secret service can not allow CCW's around the president. Too dangerous
     
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    how are they going to know unless someone is a cleaner and decides to use the firearm?
     
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    One must also remember the police usually can only act after the fact. After the bombing, shooting whatever. Also the police, security guards, etc. can be effective in stopping someone who has a escape plan and doesn't want to die in the bombing or shooting he created. The police, security guards and what have you can offer little to no defense on someone willing to commit suicide.

    I'm an old country boy, I hate cities and crowds. So I don't go by choice to the places described above.
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    a Secret Service agent who also was an attorney was assigned to my office as a special assistant DOJ litigator. He now is a partner in a big big law firm heading their white collar defense department. He noted that the SS could stop

    almost all amateurs

    many professionals who didn't want to be caught

    but not a professional who didn't mind if he died or was caught
     
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    No they aren't. The Secret Service is being overprotective. Either way, ultimately, the President and his staff have the same rights as we do. If they rent out a place to do a rally, they or the place can set the rules however they wish.
     
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    I already have implemented most if not all of these:

    1 - I carry concealed and with extra ammo 24/7/365 everywhere;

    2 - I avoid so called gun free zones;

    3 - I avoid crowds as much as possible;

    4 - my level yellow/orange situational awareness is always up;

    5 - I avoid travelling to places which won't allow my gun in;

    6 - I always have my cell phone with me as well;

    7 - I park my vehicle in a secure location where I can both watch it and get to it in case of a major terrorist event so I can retrieve my shotgun from it if need be;

    8 - the first key on my key ring unlocks my car, and the second one unlocks my shotgun in it.
     
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    Security guards can be effective, yes. They are pro-active.

    Police cannot -- they are re-active.
     
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    Exactly. Different words, same thoughts and conclusions.
     
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    perotista Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    True, but those who don't give a darn whether they get caught or die will almost always succeed.
     
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    Suicide bombers are impossible to stop, that much is true.

    If you see someone out of place or strange, you need to get out of the blast zone.

    The blast zone varies, and can reach out from 5 to 25 yards.
     
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    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    GEEZ, any group of Trump protesters.....

    But... we shouldn't profile, eh?
     
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    Trump Protestors (meaning pro-Trump) are just thugs. No big deal there.

    Trump Protestors (meaning anti-Trump) are just Bernie's Bolsheviks. They are harmless pink-o's.

    I try to avoid political events. They accomplish nothing.

    Voting on election day is where the rubber hits the road.
     
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    I'd call the antifa punks a target rich environment. They'd never come where I live.
     
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    I have been watching the media urge the leftists crowds to use what ever means to oppose Trump; not unlike how they pour gasoline on for the BLM... at some point there will be a death and they won't be able to pass it off as being perpetrated by Trump supporters, but they will attempt to blame the violence on Trump because he has upset so many people, people infected with Trumpitis and Impeachitis. Though mild in comparison my Ex blames the worl's woes on me, including Trump. Not a crowed you want to get swept up in....I saw too many mob picnics in my years in Belsfast; those could be scary, here thus far they are wimps having an ongoing tantrum urged on by a liberal media in search of ratings and profits.
     
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    As it is, terror attacks only appear on Fox.
    It's not impossible at all.

    You don't let people from violent countries with violent cultures and tendencies into your country.
     
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    It's way too late for that. They are already here.

    However you are forgetting that all USA attacks since/after 9-11 have been by home grown moosleems.
     
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    You are partly right. Most terrorist attacks are being done by the offspring of Muslims that "legally" came into the U.S. Still, we waste TRILLIONS of dollars on background checks and otherr such chicanery when the pols don't want to do the only constitutional thing they can to keep Muslims out.
     
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    That would not be constitutional. That's what the Federal courts have said.
     
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    What are you talking about? What's unconstitutional? I haven't suggested anything yet.
     

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