Thousands of DACA recipients with arrest records, including murderers, allowed to remain in U. S.

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  1. BillRM

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    LOL well I never care for the illegal gentleman from the UK that used to work on my ultralight as a machinist an once even threaten to beat him to death with the engine if it fail one more time on takeoff.

    However my illegal south american flight instructor was a hell of a nice guy.

    How many illegals do you happen to had known personally?
     
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    Or do care to do and used to do until illegals ran them out of business
    by flooding a job market with thousands of low wage no benefit uncomplaining workers. I don't remember the last time in the Napa Valley that I saw white guys painting a house, doing masonry, pouring cement or road paving.

    And apparently you aren't aware of all the out of work illegals that loiter in big box home repair parking lots. Do we need millions of unemployed illegal immigrant criminals? I doubt it.

    If I saw a family loitering in a hospital ER and as usual, the youngest child was
    translating for the mother into Spanish I would assume they were illegals as it is known hospital ERs are HMOs for illegal immigrants.

    And who pays for their medical care? Certainly NOT THEM.
     
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    And yet, it's us who are among the group with the higher ratio of murderers. Crazy world. Maybe IQ has nothing to do with violent tendencies?
     
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    If you read the article in the OP, you will see more of the reasons for arrests. Getting arrested doesn't mean you are guilty. And it isn't clear if their arrest was before or after getting DACA protection.

    Even the article says that any charges could have been dropped or they could have been found not guilty.
     
  5. BillRM

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    Strange as I had not been impress with either Trump or a large percent of the Trump supporters level of intellect including the men who he is or had hire to be his lawyers and or spoke persons.
     
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    I think we need a more complete explanation

    The us immigration service says

    V. Criminal Convictions
    Q60: If I have a conviction for a felony offense, a significant misdemeanor offense, or multiple misdemeanors, can I receive an exercise of prosecutorial discretion under this new process?

    A60: No. If you have been convicted of a felony offense, a significant misdemeanor offense, or three or more other misdemeanor offenses not occurring on the same date and not arising out of the same act, omission, or scheme of misconduct, you will not be considered for Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) except where the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) determines there are exceptional circumstances.


    https://www.uscis.gov/archive/frequently-asked-questions#criminal convictions

    Is this us government web site wrong?
    Or is Fox News wrong?
     
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    I didn't respond to the article I responded to your false reasoning.

    You were attempting to suggest the bulk of these 60,000+ DACA criminals were arrested for lack of documentation which simply is not the case.

    If you're in the DACA program then you have documentation.

    You were in too much of a hurry to lash and the result was a fail in logic.
     
  8. BillRM

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    Those illegals that used to be outside of the big box stores was there in the hope of being hire for a day or so and was very convenient for home do it your self people looking for some help doing a project.

    Sadly I assume that due to fear of ICE they are not at those locations any longer.

    Never myself hired any of them but on the whole in talking to them they seems nice people.

    Next what tend to run Americans out of the fields of south florida is not the illegals but the heat and the back breaking work in picking crops all day long for example.

    Have you try to do such pickings as I found that even a short session of picking in you pick it fields was not enjoyable to me at all.
     
  9. BillRM

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    You should report him to the IRS as they have a program that will reward you a percent of what they get out of the guy after they look into the matter.

    Next a real property owner is open to be sue for anything like large medical bills.
     
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    An interesting assertion that all of those who've been victimized and slaughtered as a result of your confidence might want to discuss with you.... The obvious challenge to your position is that the statistics would have been better, if not for this population. Obviously, you seem willing to risk our public with them, do tell why is this?
     
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    Because you can't prove their presence hasn't made America a better place.
     
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    By not addressing the observation, you then admit that you're willing to take that risk on the off chance that I cannot prove that "their presence hasn't made America a better place"? Really? That seems like quite an admission then on your part. So, in your view, those miscreants that abuse both our laws and citizens "make us better"? This seems problematic for you.
     
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    All DACA recipients get an employment card which allows them to apply for social security card and driver's license.....what a load of crap on your part.......or shall I say 'propaganda at its finest'
     
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    So you are saying that DACA recipients are king up at the border and applying for asylum? The ignorance on this forum has no bounds.........geez
     
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    Well I didn't address your bigoted hyperbole. You should stop it it makes Conservatives look like racist morons.
     
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    You should try reading the article in the OP where it clearly states "immigration-related crimes".

    also:
     
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    You want to now double down because you think you can call someone a name on the internet? That also doesn't seem particularly successful then for you. I would point out to you several things. One, folks who commit crime as illegals in this country are from all races. It would seemt he only one here limiting this to non white folks is you, which I would suggest makes you inherently the one with the racist/bigot issues here. Second, you seem willing to assert that folks interested in lowering the risk to the nation are then "racist morons". As if those who might disagree with your acceptance of the rist to our personal safety or national security are then just morons in your mind, even though it seems it is just you who seem willing to accept those folks in our midst. That seems purposefully destructive. Like you want these kinds of problems to be in our society. I call that treacherous. Perhaps you should look more closely into your own mirror.
     
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    Call someone a name on the internet?

    You just generalized a whole group of young adults by the actions of a few. Your no different from any other nativist who have denigrated whole races of people. Why not say we wouldn't have had the Mafia if not for Italians, and I'm sure you can find some sin for any ethnic group because people like you always have.

    People like you once called the Irish a scourge and the Chinese "The Yellow Peril". This isn't even about these kids, it's about trying to whip up anti-Hispanic hatred to push a bigoted voter block in line for the midterms.

    Well guess what, even Trump wants to cut them a break because Republicans care more about the Hispanic Voters than a load of bigoted knuckle draggers who can be counted on voting Republican.
     
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    No, actually I did not. I never "generalized" anyone. I specifically called out those who are criminally in violation of our laws. I pointed out that our crime would be lower if those folks weren't a part of the statistics, I suppose that nuance was too deep for your brand of thinking. So, instead of addressing that, you'd rather try to paint me as a bigot and racist. Sorry. Not playing that game today, especially with you who it seems is perfectly willing to do exactly the thing you'd try to brand others with. So, "people like me" never called the irish a scourge. or the Chinese a "peril". But I'm sure that you would have. In support of your idiotic ideology that you now seems willing to endanger our nation with. Clearly, this is you, and your method. We see through it, and are able to categorize you, and your rhetoric for what it is. Treacherous to our nation. So, likely, given that you cannot differentiate the nuance of the conversation, you'll likely continue thrashing around wildly, hoping to find some relevance.
     
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    Yes you did, stating that if DACA kids weren't in the US we, America would be safer. Don't try to dance around your intolerance . There's nothing "Nuaced" about your brand of bigotry. It's as nuanced as a brick through the window and a cross burned in the yard.
     
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    Fun stuff. Double down on your inability to understand context all you want. It isn't helping you. Thanks for reminding us of the tactics your tribe so often resort to though. It's like you're born to this stuff....
     
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    But what I think really hurts you is that even Trump abandoned you.
     
  23. Pollycy

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    The law (LAW) needs room for only three more short sentences:

    In German: Illegale Aliens, geh raus!!
    In Spanish: ¡Extranjeros ilegales, salgan!
    In English: Illegal aliens, get OUT!
     
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    I'm sure the Nazis shouted that in German on Crystal Night.
     
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    ^^^^^^^^
    Republican't logic.
     

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