Thousands rally against Israel in Istanbul

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  1. Thehumankind

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    The majority of the Kurdish people are Muslim by religion.
     
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    We have a hard line gov because we had enough of Palestinian games, I prefer your hate vs. the alternative, thou it makes no diffrence because its the idea of Israel that you oppose so it doesnt really matter what we do or who we elect.

    The Brits recorded it and it started by the Arabs due to the immigration around 1920, and they say it for certain it just doesnt go with your view that's all.
    You have no idea, you say that because you deny Israel existance not because you have some evidance, it could have just as well ended with Israel defeat and Arab surrounding Israel so that whole conqistadors vs. Aztecs thing you have in your head is just Arab propaganda, they had the odds they simply made a poor offense.
    Because its obvously a tool of dominance now after all the blood we spilt, there can be no peacful living, if they bring millions inside Israel it will destory it - and so it will never happen, the only way they can do it is on Tanks.
     
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    It is their country - what do you think all the fuss is about, anyway?
     
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    Until Israel has universal suffrage all of its "elections" are invalid.
    Actually the brutality was recorded by some of the more enlightened Jews well before 1920:

    Ahad Ha'am (Asher Zvi Ginsberg), a liberal Russian Jewish thinker who visited Palestine in 1891 and published a series of articles that were sharply critical of the aggressive behaviour and political ethnocentrism of the Zionist settlers. They believed, wrote Ahad Ha'am, that "the only language that the Arabs understand is that of force." And they "behave towards the Arabs with hostility and cruelty, trespass unjustly upon their boundaries, beat them shamefully without reason and even brag about it, and nobody stands to check this contemptible and dangerous tendency."​
    http://users.ox.ac.uk/~ssfc0005/It Can Be Done.html

    I deny Israel's legitimacy in its current form, its existence is a legal fact.

    The fact Israel won its war does nothing for its democratic legitimacy, it just means they won a war. The Palestinian refugees were and are civilians who have a right of return that is being denied to them by a nationalist-socialist power.

    Sorry I'm not clear - how or why would giving these people the vote destroy Israel?
     
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    I assume you mean singled out by the world and not just Americans who oppose US Mid East Policy, aid to Israel & Israeli government persecution of the native residents of Palestine.

    While I only spoke of my own sentiments (U.S. aid = enabling Israeli ethnic cleansing), I cannot speak for the reasons of other people except for possible "holocaust hypocrisy", Israel showcasing itself to be "the only democracy in the Mid East", Israel's reliance on foreign aid to commit ethnic cleansing and a general aversion to Israeli government aggression.
     
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    Lemmi simplify my question as much as possible - everyone is doing it to Palestinians - Jordanians, Egyptians, Syrians, Kuwaitis, Israelis, Iraqis, Saudi Arabians, while it is only Israelis who's blamed for their harsh treatment of Palestinians.

    Why?
     
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    I know that you feel that the answer is exclusively "Because they're successful Jews." however beyond the several reasons I've listed already, I would have to answer: "I don't know".
    I still maintain that Israel, like the US, is hated for what they do (& have done), not for what they are.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Given your ability to conduct an extensive researches, forgive me if I take your answer at less than it's face value.
     
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    There was also the White Paper...

    The White Paper
    In 1939, Great Britain reneged on the Balfour Declaration by issuing the White Paper, which stated that creating a Jewish state was no longer a British policy. It was also Great Britain's change in policy toward Palestine, especially the White Paper, that prevented millions of European Jews to escape from Nazi-occupied Europe to Palestine before and during the Holocaust.

    The Balfour Declaration (in its entirety)
    Foreign Office
    November 2nd, 1917

    Dear Lord Rothschild,

    I have much pleasure in conveying to you, on behalf of His Majesty's Government, the following declaration of sympathy with Jewish Zionist aspirations which has been submitted to, and approved by, the Cabinet.

    His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.

    I should be grateful if you would bring this declaration to the knowledge of the Zionist Federation.

    Yours sincerely,
    Arthur James Balfour

    https://www.thoughtco.com/balfour-declaration-1778163

    Further to the White papers read here:

    ....it acted as the governing policy for Mandatory Palestine from 1939 until the British departure in 1948, the matter of the Mandate meanwhile having been referred to the United Nations.

    The policy, first drafted in March 1939, was prepared by the British government unilaterally as a result of the failure of the Arab-Zionist London Conference.
    The paper called for the establishment of a Jewish national home in an independent Palestinian state within 10 years, rejecting the idea of partitioning Palestine.
    It also limited Jewish immigration to 75,000 for 5 years, and ruled that further immigration was to be determined by the Arab majority
    (section II).
    Restrictions were put on the rights of Jews to buy land from Arabs (section III).

    Check here:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Paper_of_1939
     
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    They have done horrible things to the civilian population in Palestine and Iraq::

    Israel and the U.S. Use Depleted Uranium in Gaza, Syria and Iraq

    https://craigconsidinetcd.com/2015/...-use-depleted-uranium-in-gaza-syria-and-iraq/
    . . . . .

    The Lancet, joined the chorus of epidemiologists challenging the credibility of a recently-released report by the World Health Organization (WHO) and the Iraqi Health Ministry. The report contradicts consistent reporting of high rates of birth defects in Iraq following the U.S. invasion in 2003. The WHO’s defense of the study despite the critiques from many corners raises questions as to the independence of the international body tasked with monitoring and addressing public health crises around the globe.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/the-c...ghts/iraqi-birth-defects-cover_b_4046442.html
    . . . . .

    The US, Israel, and Western Governments Use of Depleted Uranium Weapons of Mass Destruction
    The US, Israel, and Western government warmongers talk of the nuclear threats from other countries while they use Depleted Uranium (DU) nuclear weapons with devastation themselves, which is definitely a terrible crime against the whole of humanity.


    http://jasonliosatos.com/the-use-of-depleted-uranium-weapons-of-mass-destruction/
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    What hypocrisy they are displaying when condemning other leaders and countries!
    They have no right to throw the first stone... no stones at all!
     
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    Dutch, I've thought about your question and can only say that different people dislike Israel over other equally malevolent countries for its treatment of Palestinians for too many different reasons to list here.

    I imagine that for many in the Islamic Mid East the dislike of Israel is based on differences that are both tribal, religious and an enduring bitterness over the fate of Palestine which is a focal point for several major faiths.

    You may find this hard to believe but while I was in the Islamic Mid East there was a greater dislike for Israel's government & its policies than Israelis / the Jews themselves.

    I think you are also partly correct in feeling that some global dislike of Israel is based on its gifted & earned wealth and a dislike of Jews.

    But, generally Israel is singled out or disliked by Jews & non Jews because its democratic government has become less democratic, more arrogant, more right wing & it brutalizes Palestinians at the same time it scolds the world for the holocaust; i.e. "holocaust hypocrisy" & claims the moral high ground in "fighting terrorism".
    That's about the best I can do for now.
     
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    I'm quite familiar with the IDF use of DU, NDU, & Genotoxic ordinance.
    Unluckily for all parties, the radioactivity gets in the dust & the dust travels throughout the region
     
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    Have to catch a flight soon, so...

    Why is that no-one ever chastise Arabs for doing unto Palestinians what Israel is supposedly doing unto them? Kuwaitis expelled over two hundred Palestinians, and took their property and land away from them. Does anyone of our fella forum posters acknowledge this fact?

    Nope.
     
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    Why do you say "supposedly"?
    Israel chased away and expelled about 700 000!
    Where were they supposed to go?
    Some went to Kuwait...

    Before the Gulf War, Palestinians numbered 400,000 of Kuwait's total population of 2 million.

    Palestinians arrived in Kuwait in three different phases - 1948, 1967 and 1975.
    In the 1980s, Palestinian Arabs constituted the bulk of labor force.
    To expel 200 is very little.
    The poor Pals got expelled again from their host land.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_expulsion_from_Kuwait
    http://www.meforum.org/3391/kuwait-expels-palestinians
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    Just reading the numbers makes you wonder why the Zionists keep saying Palestine was underpopulated, an empty land?
    Why do we chastise Israel and not the Arabs, you ask?
    Well, Israel brags of being the only shining light in a sea of Arab countries; the only democracy in the ME and...
    They need to have a mirror held in front of them!!
     
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    My bad, two hundred thousand.
     
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    That's what I'm saying. The observations are concluding there's a "free fall" in almost exact shape for both towers. US governmental institution "NIST" officially recorded these free falls and recognize them just as thousands of scientists from all around the world. The science of structural engineering is actually saying the free falls of buildings can occur only during "controlled demolition". They say this because they construct their buildings on this planet by "Newtonian" laws. The scientists also extracted tons of many supporting evidences from both video records of the demolition and the debris. Thermite found in the dust along with the "almost-laser-cut" 2.5 inch thick steel columns are the most overwhelming ones to undoubtedly conclude that those steel columns were being "weakened" on purpose as thermite is not naturally found in steel columns unless it is put there by people.

    Just as any structural frame and/or supporting constructional material has to be weakened before letting a building come down in a controlled free fall, it is a "concrete fact" that World Trade Center's structural framing (2.5 inch thick steel columns) was weakened.

    Let's hear it from NIST:

    https://www.nist.gov/pba/national-i...ederal-building-and-fire-safety-investigation

    So what we have here is 3500 people killed during a scandalous "controlled demolition". If you don't agree you gonna have to prove thermite was brought by force of wind or something natural like that and put inside of the pre-cut parts of the steel columns all naturally. Moreover, you gonna have to prove the cuts were made naturally too unless you have better explanation like they were constructional errors or something, in which case there would also be some serious cuts in "progress payments" or termination of subcontractor contracts.

    To understand what happened there, you'll have to build a "practical model" of the towers with cavities correctly scaled and then pour some gallons of jet fuel on pieces of 2.5 inch thick tank armors that have been previously placed in the built models and then burn them to see if the heat generated by the fuel melts the armor in that nearly the same environment, of course, at the very same period of time. If not, then saying "the towers were brought down by jet fuel melting the steel columns" is an example of building "opinions" around conspiracy theories which were "not even" imagined as observed realities, let alone could be defended as proofs of the conspiracy... unless of course, looking at things from a medieval loser's stand point is much like a hobby... I think this last part of this reply is also enough to make you understand why you need to read deeper into what I say in my posts as I believe now it is all clear to you too that you got my "church-science" metaphor on my previous post all wrong and therefore wrongly judge it on "belief-science" gambit... No good...

    Gotta focus more there Jiji... We have to bend that reality to figure where the wormhole leads us to... :)

    Yeah, having had that checked let's make sure how many random "heads of small districts" of political parties and "mayors" had been in touch with American diplomats and other politicians in the last, say, 50 years and how many of those have had American backing at one point or another in this period of time and how many acceded to power through democratic elections in their countries. I don't know what heck would it do to the fact that Morton Abramowitz -whom was neither a "politician" nor a "diplomat" of any sort at the time- visiting Erdogan -whom was neither a "parliament member" nor a "chairman" of a political party at the time- and Erdogan visiting him back at the following years and in the meantime this back and forth movement is getting noticed by Aydinlik and they starting to follow up and finally finding out on Rand Corporation's report piece that one of the most prominent and influential think tanks of North America is counting on Erdogan's leadership for the future of the entire Middle-East region... But let's just do it jiji... If that's gonna make you happy...

    Actually I was expecting the person who's deserved to be considered as my debate opponent to come up with something more remarkable... Like; "let's go ahead and check how many self proclaimed clerics around the globe who're being the subject of warrants, legal accusations, and lawsuits back at the home country, plus having no educational backgrounds, no English capabilities and no athletic/artistic/business abilities are given green cards through extraordinary ability for 10 years in the first application, plus big ass mansions within acres of yards, plus FBI protection?"... I'm sure you'd be able to see that "extraordinary ability" was about brainwashing hundreds of thousands of people for using them to turn a secular country into a progressive Islamic sh.t hole tied to a an American dictatorship where modern state tradition gains of the 30s no longer rule...

    You know, instead of wandering around thoughts leading you no where focusing on details that unlock doors leading bigger parts of the picture is better... Try that sometimes...

    Don't be that much of a model addict now Jiji... As if you care about "analytical thinking methods"... Please :)


    Oh yes, here we go again... Welcome to the Last Resort of Losers... 5 star luxury...

    1) I don't remember saying anything about "secret meetings"... Show me... !

    2) I don't remember saying anything in regard to "hushed political gossip"... Show me... !

    3) There's only one theory here and that's the sum up of YOUR conspiracy theories... I just stated facts...

    4) How come you think I'd want you to take what I say seriously while the only thing you do is making stuff up and twist? Pathetic :)

    Then start providing some "scientific evidence" that Putin is attempting to bring the far right in EU to power. It's been weeks... Damn...

    You can run but you can't hide!

    No you're not going anywhere with this Jiji, I don't let you to...

    I actually think it's rather stupid than being any explanatory because you said this:

    After you said this:

    Then I said you shot yourself in the leg because you just refuted yourself... Because that master race BS is your own interpretation and assignment of motive without a proof. Besides, you clearly admitted the fact that America influencing "internal and external" politics of other countries. You might be good at making a "word soup" but I don't like soup. Twist right? Right... I thought so too... hahah...

    First of, many of them doesn't mean these very of them either...
    You still argue "with" interpretations and assignment of motives without a proof here. Do you want me to take you seriously? Then you gotta come up with "facts" just like I do.
    Even their lawyers admitted the guy failed the lie-test...

    I think I should definitely think if taking you serious would be a rational thing to do.
     

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    What is? I don't understand?
    What is the average sense of humor level of average John, Alejandro, Ismail, Miguel, Hans, Ahmed, Francois, Sylvio, Kostas?
    What is stateswoman responsibility?
    What is the purpose of words spoken in such an order when they don't even make a single laughter among the crowd?
    What is being the moron trying to cover up the sh/t which was already eaten?

    No that's pretty retarded and I don't know what's calling smart to a retard but I'm sure it's nothing good...

    Speaking about somebody regarding his future career as if it was death certain that he could be making it to "Prime Minister", let alone "President of the Republic", while he was doing his "jail time" and plus all the lawsuits there is 100% pure numbskull job because that's stupidly giving inside information and therefore adding up extra suspicions to an already suspicious internal political environment (been there, done that, so I can tell). That same woman caught dirty handed on a huge email scandal in Turkiye too. She thought we were pathetic lowlifes and she was a genetic god... Remember the son of shcwein Zobbo? The little wet muchi that couldn't even show up at the address in his home country? Karen was just like him. Underestimating an enemy is dangerous, be it Turks above all is a total different level...

    But I digress... You replied to this particular quote just made me real happy because now I can prove what kind of a "conspiracy theorist" you are. I'll take the credit because I actually calculated this. There are tons of baits like this in my posts, some you happened to dodge but got hit by few as well. This happened to be one of them.

    The following are the emails between Karen Fogg, the ambassador of the EU to Turkiye, and many prominent Turkish journalists who had long been suspected by the patriots as traitors. I'll translate them to English:

    1)
    Mehmet Ali Birand (Pro-EU anchorman of leading Turkish channel, Kanal D news) :

    Dear Karen,

    I've learned that Verheugen will be in town on February. I am suggesting a high priority or top priority private meeting at my house. What do you say?
    Best wishes.


    Karen Fogg replies:

    I wish you and Cemre (Birand's wife) a happy new year. GV (Günter Verheugen) will be here on February. I undoubtedly want him to be with you about the Cyprus issue along with the other media big guns, as planned.

    2)
    Karen Fogg:

    Dear Cengiz,

    You know our monthly bulletin. We have articles every month from each Turkish columnists who writes things out of Turkish view. Therefore, Sahin Alpay, Lale S, Cuneyt C., Emine Y., Ferai T., Mehmet Ali B., Samy C., Semih I., Zeynep G., Mithat M., Mim Kemal passed through this road. Now it's your turn. Will you be our guest columnist on April's issue? Payment is possible. Bill us.

    Cengiz Candar (Pro-EU journalist, columnist) replies:

    How can I refuse your suggestion? It's surprising being the last in the line made by the ones who passed from your (magazine) pages...

    3)
    From: Karen Fogg
    To: Sami Kohen, Ferai Tinc, Emine U, Sahin Alpay, Mehmet Altan, Cengiz Candar, Mehmet Ali Birand, Cuneyt Ulsever


    Hello to all;

    I am sorry for Verheugen cancelled his meetings. He won't have time for press meetings. I will be in Istanbul. I will be glad to meet with you at an informal dinner occasion on Sunday. How is 7:30 at Kor Agop's place in Kumkapi Istanbul?


    4)
    From: Karen Fogg
    To: Metin Munir(Pro-EU Journalist, Turkish Cypriot)


    I will send you a top secret via pp. I want to have a talk with you or with a person you suggest, about the new procurement law and Cyprus.

    5)
    From: Sahin Alpay(Prominent Pro-EU columnist. Once leftist fought in Palestine, then ran away to Europe a night before his 8 fellow Turkish leftists got bombed and killed by Israeli navy and army attack to the camp they were all at, then popped in Sweden as a Social Democrat academic, then came back to the country after 1980 coup and started to divide the left in Turkiye, then started as a columnist at FETO Gulen's Zaman in early 2000s, now in jail)
    To: Karen Fogg


    Dear Karen;

    Are you coming to Istanbul soon? My dean at Bahcesehir (University) Eser Karakas, a highly respected liberal with whom you had a brief meeting during the last year's visit would very much like to host you a dinner or lunch, telling me that he's in dire need of talking to you.


    Karen Fogg replies:

    Is the mini package horrifying enough to awake the sleeping beauties (code for liberals) for making a move? Or is the fear of insurrection/revolt greater by H.Ozkan's cluster effect protest cooked up with some good boys from AKP, DSP and ANAP in TBMM (Turkish parliament) to start a revolution via having the article 312 revised?

    Source book: "Karen Fogg'un epostallari"

    Let's get some little background information here now:

    Article 312 was the one that imprisoned Erdogan for 10 months after his speech in support of separatism within the society. The part of his speech, controversial lines from a poem, subjected to 312 as follows:

    "Minarets are our bayonets, domes are our helmets,
    the mosques are our barracks, the believers(Muslims) are our soldiers,
    This holy army waits for my religion... Allahu Akbar... Allahu Akbar..."


    The court ruled that these words were enough to spread mass hatred, grudge, antagonism, and hostility within this "secular society" and sentenced Erdogan for 10 months according to the law DESPITE the prosecutor having already dropped the charges. Creating public opinion in a certain way while it is currently growing in another requires some real strong "reverse psychology" methods. You have to find a public figure who knows how stuff works in that society at ground levels, who knows how to speak to the hearts of millions, who's smart enough to understand the fabric of politics, who's very good at acting and lying, who's an opportunist, also a shark that found his way around to certain heights, and greedy enough to seek for new opportunity waves to surf his way up to the top levels...

    Find him (Morton did), talk to him (visits in mid 90s), tell him what your plans with him are and what those will require him to do, tell him it is important to do exactly what he's told as you will be backing him till the end, hand him a poem with certain words when read by him would help you to use the reverse psychology method by the great helps of your EU partners who already figured and owned the mainstream media talking heads, columnists, journalists, media bosses, bribe the judges as the corrupt system allows them to accept some extra cash, have him imprisoned for enough while to make sure he stinks like a real "victim" at his release in front of every single TV camera in the country that gathered there only to shoot what he will say... Now you have a genuine figure that is coming from the dungeons of the ground zero of the order in that country that could easily be made a president of at least 65% if you could just keep being smart and patient for a little longer.

    Anyways, end of the background info... So, Karen Fogg wanted this article 312 to be eased and narrowed down from the way beginning (late 1990s) not just for Erdogan's release, not just to turn the country into an Islamic and separatist terror zone in the future, but also to make it possible for Gulen's trojan army all of whom have been strongly motivated and educated for decades by certain Islamic radicalism in secret cells that had already been spread all across the country called "Isik Evleri".

    Karen Fogg has told the reporters in her interviews that Erdogan would be ruling this country in the way the EU desired (we'll see what that desired is in a bit) when Erdogan was still in prison (recall the milliyet link in my previous post). Karen was an idiot to think she could have an Uganda sort of comfort level while working in Turkiye. She openly and freely put journalists on the payroll because she thought her bosses owned the country and the people in it as well. It must have been so to her because they'd owned many traitors and the list was growing everyday. Karen was shown the lord when her server got hit by a medium level Turkish hacker and got to run away afterwards when she saw no backing was there for her from Brussels. Actually, Brussels couldn't even deny nothing with the emails but had a weak reaction and pressed charges for the ones who published the emails based on "violation of privacy". We had a good laugh back then, I remember.

    Karen was known for her patronizing, insolent and rather cheeky attitudes toward the people of Anatolia. She always seemed underestimating the possibility that there could have also been people in Anatolia watching every move she made, people who were smarter than any random EU politician/diplomats and plan everything ahead, calculating and successfully implementing strategies, people who were ready to die for their country and didn't like the way she treated their people. That's what brought her ugly face back home. I think there's no doubt that Karen was the official ambassador of the very agenda to take away modern secular Kemalist achievements this nation has reached from the scratch and to replace it with some progressive Islamic bs which was an attributed role for Turkiye.
    Attributed? Yeeessss... A nice and smooth attribution it is...

    George W. Bush during his visit to Turkiye in 2004 said in exact words:

    "Turkey is a strong, secular democracy, a majority Muslim society, and a close ally of free nations. Your country, with 150 years of democratic and social reform, stands as a model to others and as Europe's bridge to the wider world."
    http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=64397

    Of course such a role model would also have to adjust itself a little to the ones that it was to be a role model because back then Turkiye was a tightly secular, multiparty parliamentary democracy, having a well spread urban life, 9-5 corporatism, western type of social classes, and same economical structure with the developed world, while the countries that Turkiye was desired to be a role model to were far away from every inch of those sorts of achievements. So you had an almost EU level country called Turkiye on one hand and a bunch of feudal leftovers of the Middle East on the other. You know you have to lift up those feudal lands a little when you figured that based on your calculations in the coming up decades your resources, and manpower would be damn well exhausted and your socio-economic system depending on the strength of those two crucial factors would be saturated, considering only the current increasing death rates and decreasing birth rates. Therefore, you know you gonna have to bring some "fresh blood" (refugees) in to those old veins and have to find new markets at the same time to exploit accordingly to keep your heart beating, meaning the order running, though not as much smoother as it was back in the times of the baby boomers pumping high blood pressure. So what's certain is you gotta be hitting multiple birds with a stone:

    1- Bring your guy to power in the "model country" to have "more adjustable" political environment. (Controlled Islamization of Turkiye)
    2- Change regimes in the Middle East to put them on a course "more adjustable" to the "role model" (Turkiye).
    3- Determine local populations at least in three categories as "target populations" to be replaced/worked on
    a) Force target 1 population to migrate neighboring countries to be picked up by EU as "fresh blood" (EU-Turkiye refugee deal)
    b) Force target 2 population to migrate relatively safe urban to form desired demographics for 9-5 corporatism in the host country.
    c) Let target 3 population get eliminated by terror organizations, therefore cutting down population and accelerating natural selection.
    4- Send your companies to rebuild the destroyed country while letting them getting their "fair shares".
    5- Establish friendly order in host country to be able to suck their blood as long as possible.
    6- Take some measures only for show, like closing down borders and stuff, to calm your low IQ mass at home.

    All these actually fall under:

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    and surprisingly google, who you once suggested me to sue, does not associate the term with no conspiracy theory.

    Pfffffttttt... ADL waited for like "2 decades" before handing such an award to Turkish people? Really?


    Yeah I know, I explained that up there... :)
     
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    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh, back already?
    200 000? Actually 400 000!
    The point is, these Palestinians were first evicted from their Home-country by the bad Zionists!
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The point is, everyone' doing it to Palestinians - Saudis, Kuwaitis, Iraqis, Jordanians, Lebanese... especially wicked Kuwaitis who' done it to poor Palestinians after Israelis did it to them.

    Bad, bad Kuwaitis :roflol:
     
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    Ah you are being cute, no its not their country, some of it was their land thou.
     
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    I'll wait anxiously till you will approve our elections then.

    I dont belive the Ottomans or the Brits would allow violence on the Muslim pop without a very good reason, no Ottoman record of that thou. trust the liberal nazis to find some old unkown record of such thou...
    And I deny Palestinian legitimacy to a state in its current path, their existance is a given fact.
    They will regain their rights when they will recognize the rights of others, who's a socialist power ?
    Was'nt even talking about voting , the mere presence of 10 million hostile Muslim Arabs in a 7~ Million Jewish state would destroy it.
     
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    "Jewish state"? What is that supposed to mean?
     
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    It means "no" to your refugee push efforts, the Palestinian state can host them if they chose.
     
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    Yeah... I know... Doesn't it smell bigotry in whirls to you too?

    The bigots replaced secularism with their ethno-religious descriptions of state like that... No good...
     

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