Three Minnesota Babies Were Born Alive in Botched Abortions: Here's What Happened to Them

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  1. US Conservative

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    Can't help but notice is the same side that likes children taking hormones and being transgender, etc.
     
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    I’m just saying we have a heavier burden than most developed countries.
     
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    You know I was over at democrat underground today and guess what they think?

    They think republicans pointing out how far left they have gone is a ploy-and to prove it they are going to move further left.

    Mass delusion.

     
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    Mississippi has little public debt, low taxes, and more people working than ever before.

    In 1988 you could put the elected Mississippi republicans in a phone booth. It won't never be like that again.
     
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    Too much hogwash to refute it all but how about you show proof that Planned Parenthood made a profit selling human parts....

    I know, you can't because it never happened...


    Then show proof that Planned Parenthood, despite multiple audits proving they didn't use taxes for abortions, used taxes for abortions.


    Why do you hate an entity that provides birth control so there will be less unwanted pregnancies/??? That seems stupid..
     
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    If your only rebuttal is a blog, people are going to take you EVEN LESS seriously than they already do.
     
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    By the end of Trumps second term, this won't really be an issue, at least at the federal level.

    Then dems in each state can explain why they support infanticide.
     
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    Prove it!

    The FACTS that you don't want to face is that the WHITE UNDERCLASS is way bigger and there are MORE illegitimate white babies than blacks which means they MUST be the PRIMARY cause for infant mortality.

    http://www.aei.org/publication/the-coming-white-underclass/

    That was from 1993. It hasn't improved since then.

    https://www.citylab.com/life/2012/10/66-americas-growing-underclass/3618/

    That was 2012. Let's take a look at 2016.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/09/the-original-underclass/492731/

    So when it comes to being an UNDERCLASS there really is no distinction between blacks and whites except that there are WAY MORE whites than blacks who are members of the underclass.
     
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    Actually you are wrong because detecting certain physical deformities incompatible with life only start to show up on sonograms in the late 2nd and 3rd trimesters. The imaging is just not accurate enough given how small the fetus is for early detection. Yes, there is ongoing research to improve these images but they are still in the development phase and a long way from general availability.

    That DEBUNKED bovine excrement about "selling body parts" was exposed as being made up crap by the extremist anti-abortionist who ended up becoming a convicted criminal.
     
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    :applause:
     
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    I'm sure that's not what Texas meant. He's usually very level headed and not a racist radical. So please stop already with the trying to spin his text to fit your "Gotcha" narrative.
     
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    Ok IF that's true and they can't find problems until the 3rd trimester, legislation needs to address that as to where the line is drawn. No child should die just bc of Down syndrome. Nor should the parents be saddled with that problem which could ruin their lives, I get that. So how about they become wards of the state? But whatever, we simply can't have babies who may even be perfectly healthy murdered on the table after botched abortions.

    This decision should not be left to the mother to decide who may be a cold hearted btch that just doesn't want to be bothered. Someone needs to fight for these babies who can't fight for themselves.
     
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    As it now is whoever decides decides, but the fact is that abortion makes the black race weaker and the other races stronger.
     
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    How does that work?

    Do you think black women having the same rights as white women make them weaker?
     
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    There are NO "babies" who are "perfectly healthy murdered on the table after botch abortions". That is just the bovine excrement that those opposed to Women's rights spout because they want to INFLAME emotions. Instead there are some exceptionally rare instances where women, in consultation with their doctors, choose an alternative abortion procedure. This option is chosen because the woman WANTED to have a child and has become attached to her fetus even though it has ZERO chances of survival even using heroic measures in an NICU. She knows this so she arranges for the abortion to be done in such a manner that will give her the opportunity to hold it while it dies.

    This COMPASSIONATE approach to an abortion is the EXACT OPPOSITE of what you erroneously alleged regarding being "murdered on the table" and "cold hearted btch".

    That those opposed to Women's rights use this kind of DISHONEST RHETORIC instead of providing the FACTS exposes just how WEAK and EMPTY their position actually is on this matter.

    Abortions are intensely PERSONAL INDIVIDUAL DECISIONS made by women who are actually making a decision as to what is best for their EXISTING children in 50% of all cases. The FRACTION of LATE TERM abortions are for women who WANT to have a child but who are UNFORTUNATE enough to be those whose fetus does NOT develop normally.

    So there are NO "babies who can't fight for themselves". That too is another load of bovine excrement. No medical doctor would RISK their own LICENSE in order to abort a "healthy 3rd term fetus".

    Now if you REALLY want to REDUCE abortions by 40% I recommend that you start demanding that Long Acting Reversible Contraceptives (LARC's) be made available to every women who wants one. Yes, they are more expensive but they are way more EFFECTIVE and the additional expense would go a very long way towards achieving the goal of reducing abortions.

    Why does NO ONE who is opposed to abortion talking about doing something SANE and REASONABLE like that?
     
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    OMG you bigot, Democrats aren't for open borders or 3rd trimester abortions even though many of our leaders have either explicitly said so or hem hawed around it. I bet you listen to breitfart ugh!

    /Sarcasm
     
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    "Abortions are intensely PERSONAL INDIVIDUAL DECISIONS made by women who are actually making a decision as to what is best for their EXISTING children in 50% of all cases. The FRACTION of LATE TERM abortions are for women who WANT to have a child but who are UNFORTUNATE enough to be those whose fetus does NOT develop normally."

    How do you know who the woman is prioritizing when making the decision to have an abortion? What you write makes it seem as though every woman is mother Theresa
     
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    How long have women had access to birth control?

    Why is it that it's 2019 and there is still no birth control for men and little funding for research?

    Seems strange to me
     
  20. KJohnson

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    BS....the fact that there are no restrictions placed on abortions all the way up to and including after the mother gives birth leaves that door open and up to the mother so even if dems claim this, knowing there are women capable of anything, it's obviously BS.

    And who trusts dems to tell the truth about anything when there's money and power involved? I truly believe they would have no problem harvesting baby parts. Makes sense. So just bc you or any other democrat fighting for abortions claims it isn't true, since you have skin in the game, I say BS.

    Normally one might run to websites to get those answers but that's changed.

    These days to make rational decisions knowing there is so much fake news everywhere, one has to consider past history of individuals or party affiliation and facilitate their own common sense to try and reach the truth. Historically, especially since the Obama admin, the democratic party has proven themselves to lack all integrity and be beyond corrupt capable of anything if it means gaining money and power.
     
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    Thank you for establishing that you have never bothered to acquaint yourself with any of the relevant FACTS prior to commenting on the topic.

    https://www.guttmacher.org/united-states/abortion
     
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    It's a mental illness. Obviously when considering what they're agreeing to, such as open borders, abolishing DHS, ICE, and border patrol, while claiming they want to give everyone invading, healthcare, free college, and all other gov programs, anyone on board with this needs a lobotomy bc they're obviously insane.
     
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    Cognitive dissonance does not alter factual reality!

    You cannot PROVE any of your BOGUS allegations above.
     
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    Unless you/they have a machine to read minds there is no way to know
     
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    So according to you women always lie when answering anonymous surveys?
     
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