Throwing out the Bill Of Rights regarding 2A

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by JakeJ, Aug 3, 2018.

  1. Rucker61

    Rucker61 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2016
    Messages:
    9,774
    Likes Received:
    4,103
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I believe that corruption exists in all levels of government.
     
  2. dave8383

    dave8383 Banned at Members Request Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2018
    Messages:
    4,995
    Likes Received:
    1,184
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Patient post. I don't agree with all of it, but I understand where you're coming from.
     
  3. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2013
    Messages:
    93,457
    Likes Received:
    14,675
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Suggesting the use of deadly violence against government officials to undue what you see as injustice, when we still have many peaceful, legal and non-violent methods of effecting political change is:

    A- lazy.

    B- treasonous.
     
  4. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2013
    Messages:
    93,457
    Likes Received:
    14,675
    Trophy Points:
    113
    whenever you have human beings running things there will ALWAYS be some corruption.

    its human nature.

    no way around it.
     
  5. Xenamnes

    Xenamnes Banned

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2015
    Messages:
    23,895
    Likes Received:
    7,537
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Explain what the peaceful, legal, nonviolent methods being referred to are.
     
  6. Xenamnes

    Xenamnes Banned

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2015
    Messages:
    23,895
    Likes Received:
    7,537
    Trophy Points:
    113
    It is a confirmed fact that such is the situation in the united states.
     
  7. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2013
    Messages:
    93,457
    Likes Received:
    14,675
    Trophy Points:
    113
    voting.

    non-violent protest.

    civil disobedience.

    Constitutional Convention.

    and there is always peaceful revolution if none of that works.
     
  8. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2013
    Messages:
    93,457
    Likes Received:
    14,675
    Trophy Points:
    113
    well then you have tons of non-violent options to fix things.
     
    Last edited: Aug 10, 2018
  9. Xenamnes

    Xenamnes Banned

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2015
    Messages:
    23,895
    Likes Received:
    7,537
    Trophy Points:
    113
    And during the last election for president of the united states, the choice was either Hillary Clinton, or Donald Trump. Neither candidate was wanted, leaving the public no choice but to either not vote at all, or vote against the candidate they hated the most. The public is simply not allowed to choose their representatives, rather their representatives are chosen for them, with no option to refuse both and demand new nominees to choose from.

    Which has proven useless in response to the perceived unfettered killing and abuse of suspects by law enforcement officers who enjoy qualified immunity to shield them from the consequences of their actions.

    Which is doing nothing but currently getting innocent bystanders injured and angry.

    Which is done by state governments, meaning the corrupt parties who hold public office are the ones deciding the matter for the people.

    Pray tell exactly what is peaceful revolution? How does such work, and what does it entail?
     
  10. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2013
    Messages:
    93,457
    Likes Received:
    14,675
    Trophy Points:
    113
    looks like you are very quickly disregarding ALL forms of peaceful means of change, even ones that have proven to be very successful

    how lazy
     
    Last edited: Aug 10, 2018
  11. Xenamnes

    Xenamnes Banned

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2015
    Messages:
    23,895
    Likes Received:
    7,537
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Have the peaceful means of change proven to be very successful as of recently?

    If so, in which cases can such actually be demonstrated?
     
  12. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2013
    Messages:
    93,457
    Likes Received:
    14,675
    Trophy Points:
    113
    you know what? this discussion is garbage.

    you and folks like you who disregard any and all peaceful means of change, and instead talk about killing all politicians are 100% full of crap.

    no one believes you, no one cares about your feigned threats of "revolution".

    :p
     
  13. Xenamnes

    Xenamnes Banned

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2015
    Messages:
    23,895
    Likes Received:
    7,537
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Just as no one care about the constant, deliberate efforts at derailment being engaged in on the part of yourself.

    The subject of this discussion pertains to the bill of rights being openly violated and ignored by politicians who no longer fear being caught in the act of doing such. Which in turn sparked a discussion about how it is ultimately impossible to save to constitutional republic of the united states from what the government has become, because what would ultimately be necessary to do such carries far too high of a cost for anyone to accept.
     
  14. Right is the way

    Right is the way Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2013
    Messages:
    3,214
    Likes Received:
    1,584
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I find it funny that the guy that calls everyone fascist is the one that looses it when it is pointed out that his very are fascist in nature.

    What was he talking about a vacation. Is he the type of guy that runs to mommy (moderator) when he gets his feelings hurt?
     
    Last edited: Aug 10, 2018
  15. 6Gunner

    6Gunner Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2010
    Messages:
    5,631
    Likes Received:
    4,062
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Thanks, Dave. I genuinely appreciate that.
     

Share This Page