Time to Get Real About Ukraine

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  1. Tofiks

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    Truly stunning discovery. :D
     
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    The stunning part is that you are stunned by such a common knowledge fact. :confuse:
     
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    You know, that there is such a thing as internet?
     
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    I was right this time. You are transparent as a pane of glass and predictable as a sunrise. Its actually sort of funny. Well, sad/funny.
     
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    Is that the thing with the knobs and switches and glowing vacuum tubes?
     
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    Actually, no you're not.
    I sincerely hope so because I speak in clear English and I seldom set traps between the lines.
    Both sad and funny? That's very kind of you to say so. Thank you! :hug:
     
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    At Offensive, a new Kyiv bar, revellers toast to Putin's downfall amid the debris of war
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    Stolen goods will be recovered from thieves.
     
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    Agreed! Nokrainiums must give back the People's Republics of Luhansk and Donetsk. :handshake:
     
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    The "People's Republics of Luhansk and Donetsk" are mere creations of Russian propaganda and military special operations.
     
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    Start listening to this at about the 56:00 time mark.

    Dr.SHIVA™ LIVE: The “Humanitarian” Warmonger – Booby F’n Kennedy Jr. – The Other Face of Imperialism
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    He says that the reason for the war is that the western capitalists want access the Russia's resources.

    I just came across this person's videos and I'm still assessing them. I haven't formed a firm opinion on him yet,
     
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    The population of the Donbas has democratically voted. The results? Nokrainiums out! Independence in! :nod:
     
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    No. They did not.
     
  16. Thingamabob

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    I'm sure I'd agree with his assessment but he is soooooo tedious that I can't bear to listen to more than 5 minutes of this guy.
     
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    You were probably asleep when it happened. I was awake. It must be the time zone factor.
     
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    The official outcome of that referendum, which was also denounced as a farce by international observers, was that more than 95% of voters wanted to join the Russian Federation. Following the vote, Moscow quickly annexed Crimea.Sep 27, 2022

    Occupied regions of Ukraine vote to join Russia in staged referendums
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    https://www.npr.org › 2022/09/27 › russia-ukraine-refer...
     
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    I'm sure that is accurate but that isn't the whole story. The population of the People's Republics of Luhansk and Donetsk actually want independence but because of the war and the treachery from Kyev, they feel safer within the Russian Federation. I personally also think they ought to be awarded independence rather than Federation status but if the Nokrainiums do not cease their ravaging of the Donbas then the citizens of Luhansk and Donetsk have no choice but to join Russia for protection. :???:
     
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    Negative for ruZZia, which is a good thing. :)
     
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    Irrelevant. CNN is destroying the US.
     
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    Its been about a week less than 4 months, with 99 pages and 2,273 posts now. Have we gotten 'real' enough about Ukraine yet?
     
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    Such secession movements are usually attempts (as in the Donbas) to circumvent the outcome of national elections. In the US we take a dim view of secession.
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