Time to stick a fork in it already.

If this were a prize fight the ref would have stopped it. As even more witnesses, like David Holmes, emerge to give granular detail to the case, every meager defense Repubs have employed to protect Dear Leader has crumbled under the weight of the evidence.

The Golfer-in-Chief (where is he playing this w/e?) engaged in a scheme to extort Zelensky for personal, political gain. Aided and abetted by sycophants and yes men willing to do Don's bidding without regard for the unethical or illegal nature of his requests.
A political hack was placed in charge of the hold on military support because career experts normally in charge thought the hold was illegal. A hold ordered by Don. The aid was only released when the scheme began to be exposed.
Don was made aware by Sondland of Zelensky's acquiescence to the demand by Don that he make a statement regarding an investigation of Old Joe's offspring. Gone now is Don's chance to throw aids under the bus by suggesting they had gone rogue.
Yovanovitch was removed to clear a path for the quid pro quo by way of a smear campaign orchestrated by Slimy Rudy and corrupt Ukrainian prosecutor Poroshenko.
The participants in the extortion scheme include Don, Giuliani, Perry, Sondland, and to some extent Volker.
The transcript of the Trump/Zelensky call was initially hidden on a code level classified server, despite containing no national security secrets, because it was recognized by WH staff as being highly damaging to the prez.
The Obstructionist-in-Chief has not only exposed himself to being charged with obstruction of the inquiry but as of yesterday acted in a way that witness tampering/intimidation could be included to the articles of impeachment.

As the hearings continue these facts will only be further substantiated. The counter factual argument the Repubs can offer is non-existent. It's a done deal. It takes a person a while, from a 10,000 ft. view, to fully comprehend the scope of the corruption involved here.

I've said repeatedly for well over a week now Senate Repubs are going to be forced to retreat to the bunker of acknowledging President Flim Flam's guilt. Their best hope has been reduced to keeping MAGA-ites in line with the "it's not an impeachable offense" claim.

If this isn't impeachable what is? Certainly there are worse things he could have done. But taken as a whole the facts in evidence............obstruction...........bribery...........witness intimidation..........the illegal solicitation of negative campaign material from a foreign national on a political opponent...............are more than enough. The only remaining question is whether Senate Repubs feel their re-election chances stand a better chance with an impeachment or an acquittal vote. Cuz if this was about the evidence Don would have the dubious distinction of being the first prez to be removed based on a Senate conviction.

 

But you define "impeachable" as anything that doesn't please you....
If that is to be the definition, America might as well close the lid, because it would be dead.
I can only assume that would please you, because I don't see you ever supporting anything else.
Anyone who understands what that means understands what they must do.

Not all Trump supporters know they are Trump supporters, but of course every contribution is welcome.
Your back-door support for the re-election of the president is, behind closed doors of course, sincerely appreciated.
Of course you have competition, but we know you are doing your best in your own way.

 

You're confused. While it's true bribery, obstruction, witness tampering, and illegally soliciting campaign help don't please me....................they are clearly impeachable offenses. Glad I could help clear that up.

 

Yep Lee, I agree. It's time for Queen Nancy to tighten up her dentures and hold the vote in the House. Let's get on with it.

 

Something being missed here it that the outcome of all this is known as Articles (plural) of Impeachment. The judicial committee is looking into other matters stemming from the Mueller Report. Most prominent are the four provable instance of Trump's obstruction of justice. Trump's idiotic tweet against Yovanovitch during testimony, for god's sake, was clearly witness intimidation and any court would recognize it as such.

 

Then get on with it and lets get this charade over with.. Take it to the senate.

 

It is not a charade. It is laying out, in a very public way, the corruption, and the corrupt nature of Mr. Trump and those around him. You may not like it, and it may cause emotional pain to those who wish things were different, but it is all going to come out. History isn’t going to look kindly on the likes of Lindsey Graham and Jim Jordan, or the Trump spectacle in general. So you might as well sit back and watch the show. Watch as Republicans spin out of control, in an effort to defend the indefensible.

 

Don, always boasting of his "achievements," may have outdone himself this time. Before this is over he may hold an unbreakable record for the most articles of impeachment ever.

 

It is clear that you and your ilk are giggling to yourselves as you witness what you are convinced are the last gasps of the Trump administration before everything comes tumbling down and Trump is removed from office. You are believing hook line and sinker every nuance of spin being promulgated from most mainstream media sources, and you truly believe that Trump supporters are in denial of what is inevitably going to happen, and you truly think that we are distressed and hopelessly grasping at any straw in order to promote a false belief that Trump will not be removed from office.

What you don't realize is that me and my ilk are giggling at you being fooled yet again. We have watched while you breathlessly reported every daily update during the Mueller investigation, and how each day you would report how the noose is tightening more and more and more, and how you were convinced that Trump's removal due to the Mueller report was only a matter of when, and not if. We see the exact same scenario playing out here, and marvel at how easily you are being led down that same primrose path only to have your hopes and dreams crushed once again. We see this impeachment inquiry as a colossal waste of time, and while we can see that Democrats do have the ability to pass articles of impeachment on their own due to only needing a slim house majority to do so, we also recognize that your chances of success in the senate are basically zero. If you do pass in the house and fail in the senate, it is our sincere belief that would result in a huge boost for Trump in 2020. In other words, we almost want the Democrat house to impeach, because that is what is in our best interests electorally. Regardless of what happens, this entire waste of time is a positive for Trump, and your constant reporting of how the noose is tightening is truly a source of humor for us.

........Only one side is correct, and that answer will clearly be revealed in whether or not Trump is removed from office via impeachment.There is no gray area in that answer. Personally, I like, no....I LOVE my sides chances. If I had the opportunity to wave a magic wand and make it so that Trump never had that phone conversation, I would not avail myself of that opportunity, because all of this in my mind is much ado about nothing, and is ultimately a HUGE positive for Trump being re-elected. How tightly you clutch your pearls is of literally no consequence.

 

I don't particularly care whether Trump is impeached or not. I did not vote for him and do not like him. That said, he was marginally better than Hilary. However, all and all he has done some good. That cannot be said for the democrats. They have made removal of Trump their mission in life. It is not being conducted fairly. Anyway you look at it, it is a charade.

 

And of course- the obsessed left is absolutely sure that those things, or something, must have happened- and they will destroy anything to get to it.

Note this-

Attorney General Bill Barr accused congressional Democrats Friday of “using every tool” to “sabotage” the Trump administration by setting a “dangerous” precedent in implying that the government is illegitimate.
During a speech at the Federalist Society’s dinner in Washington, Barr took aim at the “resistance,” accusing liberal lawmakers of attacking the very foundations of the Constitution.

“I deeply admire the American presidency as a political and constitutional institution,” he began. “Unfortunately over the past several decades, we have seen a steady encroachment on executive authority by the other branches of the government.”

Barr said the “avalanche of subpoenas” and constant attempt to derail appointments by the Trump administration have only served to “incapacitate” the executive branch.

“Immediately after President Trump won the election, opponents inaugurated what they called the ‘resistance’ and they rallied around an explicit strategy of using every tool and maneuver to sabotage the functioning of the executive branch and his administration.”

“The cost of this constant harassment is real,” he continued.

Barr likened the language used by Trump’s opponents to that of groups who attempt to overthrow militant rule of seized governments.

Barr IS RIGHT.
THAT CRAP IS THE REAL OFFENSE- SOMETHING REALLY DOING DAMAGE TO THE NATION.
It is also what you deny. That conduct is giving your endorsement to the end result because of the overwhelming drive of revenge- and like small children, not a clue about the down-side because... you're mad.

Watching the dems today is like watching the Eric Cartman character on South Park; hatching one plot after another trying to satisfy his totally selfish insecurities and hide his miserable self esteem- never accomplishing anything but damage and disruption, and never getting a clue as to why it never works.

 

I never giggle when objectively obvious abuses of power by the POTUS are revealed. It sickens me.
Neither am I particularly optimistic about Don's forcible removal from office cuz............you know..........I know enough not to rely on Repubs to choose the rule of law over their own political fortunes.
I am hopeful we are relieved of this national nightmare in Nov. next year. The sooner we can collectively put the pieces of our nation back together the better.

 

Yep If the Democrat leadership had any balls they'd have stuck a fork in this thing after Yanni's testimony yesterday. Her statement when asked point blank if she had any first had knowledge of an impeachable offense by Trump was no I don't. In fact that is what everyone of these so called witness have said thus far. None of them like the change in policy but that's not their job. So two days several hours and you have not a damn thing but a disagreement as to policy and concerns over that policy change. And sorry not only is that not impeachable, it's not even wrong.

 

Where's the quid pro quo? Who told you that quid pro quo was out and bribery was in? Are you being brainwashed by some echo chamber? I know. I know. 60% of Democrats thought quid pro quo was a seafood dish.

BTW. If you find the person who read Trump's tweet while what'sHerFace was on the stand, you will have your witness tamperer or tampon, whichever may be the case.

Since the former Ambassador had no knowledge of anything, but was there as a prop, complete with tissues, even the criminal who read the tweet couldn't be indicted for anything more than prop tampering.

 

Clutch your pearls tightly my friend. It likely will not do you any good, but it does elicit a hearty giggle from Trump supporters. We haven't laughed this hard since those protesters were pounding on the Supreme Court Doors after Kavanaugh was confirmed.

 

Several hours of testimony and not one person has testified to direct evidence of that charge. And the only witness tampering was done by Schiff.

 

It would help the country if we could agree to a common set of facts. However we’ve got the bad faith of representatives on the intelligence committee lending credence to conspiracy theories, shouting hearsay while demanding testimony from the whistleblower (or the ultimate hearsay witness) while being complicit in blocking testimony from first hand witnesses. It’s not only reprehensible it’s embarrassing.

Enlightening has been the testimony of our “deep state”. If these sober, experienced, educated, dedicated individuals are the problem with our country than it’s fairly obvious we need more problems.

As this continues to unravel I have faith some Republican Senators will eventually serve the interest of the country.

Serious question, do rep’s like Nunes actually believe the conspiracy theories he’s forwarding or is he simply tossing crap against the wall in an attempt to defend the President , the party?

 

Thanks for proving "the counter factual argument the Repubs can offer is non-existent."

 

I'll never understand how Trumpette's got to the point of cheer leading for the subversion of democracy.

 

Except Mueller said they were at best Problematic. Bad mouthing an investigator is not Obstruction, saying I don't know is not obstruction. You've got nothing not even enough straws to keep a fly afloat.

 

Except of course for the fact that everything I said was completely factual. "I heard it through the Grapevine" is not a chargeable offense.

 

From where I sit, it is the left that is trying desperately to subvert Democracy, and I cheer for your abject failure. You provide plenty of reason to stand up and shout with glee.

It is my sincere belief that your odds of success are nearly zero. Whether you understand that is of no consequence. I marvel at how easily your ilk is manipulated and ultimately fooled.

 

Or is he telling a Truth that this entire charade by the Democrats is trying desperately to hide?

 

By the way, get a program so you know the players. Poroshenko was the Ukraine President who, after Ukraine tried and failed to fight off Putin's tanks in Crimea with the blankets Obama sent him, asked Congress to give him defensive weapons to fight off Putin backed separatists who Putin was arming with tanks. In response, Obama gave Ukraine K-Rations so they could fight off the separatists with hard biscuits and dry sausage ---- because he didn't want to upset Vladi. That was 2014, before K-Ration Obama and Killary enlisted the aid of the KGB to undermine the Trump campaign and hatched a plan to frame Trump as being a Putin puppet.

 

You are kidding yourself. Speciously claiming it's all hearsay is not a refutation of the facts in evidence. BTW, this............. https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/sondland-trump-holmes-call-testimony
..............isn't hearsay.
Mueller proved multiple instances of obstruction.
https://www.lawfareblog.com/obstruction-justice-mueller-report-heat-map