Time to stop the lying. Trump Russian dirt shopping.

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  1. Guyzilla

    Guyzilla Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What does that have to do with the price of TREASON in America?
     
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    Alinsky. Accuse your opponent of what you are doing.
     
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    I wouldn't bother for one thing I wouldn't place myself in that position. For another there is no evidence that a few Russian face book posts effected the election what ever damn lies you want to sell yourself.
     
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    If there was any that was it.
     
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    Guyzilla Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The DOING, of treachery, is enough to convict, no matter the effectiveness or cunning of the assailant.
     
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    So by all means lets throw all those russians in the slammer.
     
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    Guyzilla Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You don't seem to GET IT. Those Ruskies, make sure Trumps lark pardon scheme, to stop the investigation, WONT WORK.

    Those Russians will make Trump have to pardon all the Russians indicted as well. Mueller has Trump by his shriveled HANDS, hands I meant, no really.
     
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    So got that checkstub for two million paid for info that was never used?
     
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    It is to laugh the things leftists believe would get a lot of people a bed next to a dementia patient in a nursing home.
     
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    It is to laugh the things leftists believe would get a lot of people a bed next to a dementia patient in a nursing home.
     
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    There were literally dozens of them. I would not be at all surprised if you were not one of teh ones who pushed their meme by liking and sharing many of the fake news websites that inevitably contained a made up story designed specifically to pander to the restentment of the angry white man audience. These would appear on social media and get pushed by Trump supporters at the rate of two or three a week. Inevitably, the sites themselves would be either one page sites deliberately designed to look like a legitimate news source or right wing blog (far right wingers NEVER question the latter). They would appear one day, and be gone two days later.

    In this manner, strong Trump supporters were played for useful idiots and counted on to deliver the Russian message throughout the social media world.

    Since the direct advertising alone (not even the fake sites) reached 130 of the 160 million people who voted, and since Trump's plurality depended on less than 70000 votes, they only needed a hit rate of about .05% to do the job. Considering that the least effective advertising out there, direct mail, has a hit rate of 2 to 3%, the Russians only needed 1/40th of that rate to be successful. There is probably no way to prove that they swung the election, but the statistics suggest that is indeed quite possible. Of course, there was no way to know of this outcome in advance.

    But the issue is that they tried, on a massive and systematic scale over the course of several years.

    The other issue is that there is no doubt that the Trump campaign was eager and willing to collude.

    If the Russians did not collude with the Trump campaign, it certainly was not for lack of interest or enthusiasm on the part of the Trump team.

    And that should be an issue that any patriot should be justifiably concerned about.
     
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    Here is a collection of some of the ads placed by just one of sevaral Russian troll farms. I know that at least three of them showed up on my FB feed from Trumpster friends of mine.

    And I have not even gotten to the fake news sites yet.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/01/us/politics/russia-2016-election-facebook.html
     
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    Well considering the leftist lost the election from non-participation then it would stand to reason they were the biggest consumer of FAKE news :) And to be accurate, still are :) The left want to blame anyone for their base being stupid enough to think you can cast a vote from a smart phone using a #text Hiilyhag landslide win LMFAO :)

    Really slick, whose to blame here lololol
     
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    It could be anyone, it could be a 300 lb guy in his bed, cept Trump doesn't want any investigation, to determine WHO it is.
     
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    Really, they send my Momz a ballot to fill out and mail back in just as they do with any elderly or disabled registered voter in California if they request it! Fat and disabled is far different than gullible and stupid :)
     
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    Since no evidence has ever been presented of any crime, other than the hysterical rantings of far right wing media, you don't have much of a point.

    But then, you Trumpsters don't seem to be able to let go of the last election. It's aways a trip in the wayback machine to Obama and Clinton for you guys. After a year and a half, the Trumpster two step ought to be getting old.
     
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    Which does not change the fact that he wants to be a dictator, and says so quite often.
     
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    Oh, so it's Obama's fault that you got your wish! Well, the rationalizations from Trumpster land keep coming!

    And all the chest thumping pseudo masculinity, as if beating one's chest, belittling people pointlessly and being reckless and self destructive was what leadership is all about.

    You Trumpsters are pathetic.

    You crow and cheer because Trump makes a big show on TV. But you don't care (or try and excuse ) the fact that he elevates the most brutal and isolated dicator on earth, and gives him major concessions, getting nothing in return.

    So, we have to listen to all this bar talk about beta types. It's the sound of keyboard cowards. The kind of people who think little bullies are real men.

    As someone said, Trump is a weak man's idea of a strong man, a poor man's idea of a rich man, and a fools idea of what a smart man is.

    And Trumpsters prove that maxim here every single day.
     
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    I don't get why you give your hero, The Obama, a pass. If what Russia was doing was really so bad why did Obama let it happen. Was this how he got flexible with Putin?

    Is Obama a traitor or just an incompetent coward?
     
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    If Obama had come forth and said Russia is trying to influence the election in Trump's favor you would have gone apoplectic. And the fact that Trump continues to deny it happenened is is the true mark of a traitor.
     
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    So you think Obama is an incompetent coward. You are saying that Obama let Russia hack the election because he was scared at what I might say.

    Are all liberals sissy b****** or just Obama?
     
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    Nope and Russia disn't hack the election it tried to influence it and probably suceeded. Maybe if you can come up with what you think Obama should have done you can post it here and then foreward it to Trump who not only denies the Russian meddling but has done nothing to prevent it from occuring in the next election. Probably because the meddling was in his favor which is why he keeps paying them back.
     
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    I'm just wondering if you think Obama should have banned the Russians from Facebook?

    Doesn't the collective believe that the internet is only for Americans and foreigners that agree with Democrats?
     
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    Do you consider your contributions cogent?
     
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    Don't you Peelievers believe Hillary lost because of Facebook ads?

    Don't you Peelievers believe Kim Jong Un is using Trump to get to Stormy Daniels?

    Don't you Peelievers believe trump paid hookers to pee on a bed just because Obama used it once in the past?

    I think you Peelievers, peelieve everything the collective feeds you.
     
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