Timeline: Trump, Giuliani, Biden, and Ukrainegate (updated)

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  1. struth

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    I have repeatedly.
     
  2. Andrew Jackson

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    You are probably asking too much, if you expect anyone who CONTINUES To Spread BS FAKE Narratives to actually "source" anything.

    This "Biden/Ukraine Thing" has been DEBUNKED 1000x Over.

    ^And, Everybody KNOWS it.

    Why even WASTE Time on people who keep Copy/Pasting the same DEBUNKED BS?

    Some people just like the comfort of the Breitbart (FALSE Narrative) Echo Chamber.

    They get a few people who agree with them, the DEBUNKED BS gets a few "likes", and they just keep going with the Debunked BS.

    And, of course, on Social Media (Twitter, Etc.) Trump Supporters are Exponentially Overrepresented (compared to the 27% of Eligible Voters who enabled his Fluke Election).

    ^It is what it is.
     
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    Made me laugh.
    :applause::applause::applause:
     
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    HB Surfer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am never surprised anymore when Leftists don't know huge stories. Their brainwashing media only tells them what they want them to know, with a spin that re-enforces their warped ideology.

    China (Hunter Biden):

    https://nypost.com/2019/10/10/6-facts-about-hunter-bidens-business-dealings-in-china/
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/what-we-know-about-hunter-bidens-dealings-in-china-11570181403


    Iraq (George Biden):


    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...-little-brother-exposes-obama-ahead-of-debate


    I will assume I don't have to provide a link for the Ukrainian kick back? Joe Biden has been selling his office for years. Prior to that he sold domestically when he was a Senator to Credit Card companies.
     
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    There are lots of things to investigate here:
    Who came up with the idea to threaten Ukraine with aid? Biden or someone else?
    Was Obama aware of it?
    Was anyone else consulted?
    Were congressional leaders aware?
    If the idea was pushed by an advisor - why was Biden sent to do this considering his personal connection?

    Lots of good questions need to be answered there. Why are you afraid of the truth?

    As for Ukraine shelving investigation - well, the prosecutor was on his job for just 13 months. How many cases get prosecuted in the US in under 1 year?
     
  6. kungfuliberal

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    Read the transcript chuckles...read the ENTIRE article in the link.....like all Trump chumps, you mouth off while maintaining your proud willful ignorance. What got "called out" is the usual out of context stuff that Fox Noise loves to feed it's audience.
     
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    I don't have a WSJ account and don't plan on opening one, so beyond an opening paragraph, that link is closed to me.

    I asked for your sources not because I was unfamiliar with the subject, but to see what YOU are basing your statements on. The two right wing rags noted for skewing facts and slip shod "guilt by association and innuendo" reporting confirms my suspicions of your erroneous allegations (the NY Post belongs to Murdoch, the Washington Examiner was started by Christine conservative Philip Anschutz....'nuff said.).

    Here's a more balanced examination of Hunter and George that fills in the gaps your sources leave out:

    https://www.factcheck.org/2019/10/trumps-claims-about-hunter-biden-in-china/

    https://www.politico.com/magazine/s...brother-hedge-fund-money-2020-campaign-227407

    Now these dealings are worth cocking an eye at....unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on what side of the fence you're on), more recent revelations show that nothing illegal outside of some nepotism was done. This is just one of the reasons I won't vote for Joe, as he's too much of the status quo. But your view of the situation alludes to outright criminal behavior, and that's just not so.
     
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    Would you PLEASE try to use more news sources than Murdoch's minions? There was an INTERNATIONAL desire to remove the corrupt gov't of the Ukraine....NATO and all. LOOK IT UP, because I'm damned tired of doing the homework for the willfully ignorant! If you're particularly lazy, go back and READ CAREFULLY AND COMPREHENSIVELY the OP.
     
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    Really? Where's the link to the post that you did such? You keep parroting claims without proof which is worthless. If you can't do better than repeat this dreck of yours as a final word, then have at it.
     
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    I read the transcript, and then Shifty’s parody
     
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    And your just mouth insipid stubbornness, because the entire article explains in detail why Shift's parody was not put out as "fake news". Here's a little more to explain your folly:
    Trump again tweeted about Schiff on Oct. 1, asking why Schiff wasn’t “being brought up on charges for fraudulently making up a statement and reading it to Congress,” in other words, perjury charges.

    As we’ve written before, perjury requires intent to deceive. Federal law says a person commits perjury when he or she is under oath and “willfully subscribes as true any material matter which he does not believe to be true.”

    Schiff didn’t portray his summary of the call as true. He said at the beginning of his remarks, “Shorn of its rambling character and in not so many words, this is the essence of what the president communicates.” And at the end, he added, “This is in sum and character what the president was trying to communicate with the president of Ukraine.”
     
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    And someone explain how the hell a private citizen who has not been vetted through the standard Secret Service route gets to become the President's personal envoy on foreign affairs? "America's Mayor" ain't no saint, folks. I speak as a New Yorker who new the little SOB's track record. I can only imagine the hysterical cry for immediate impeachment from the GOP and right wing media machine if Obama pulled a similar stunt.
     
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    It was r fake news, it’s just a lie. And that’s what the entire impeachment iAd is based on
     
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    Wrong as usual, my insipidly stubborn friend. No one cares what you "believe" or what the Orange Oaf and his flunkies keeps regurgitating. The documented circumstantial evidence is more than enough to warrant and inquiry. And no, there is no Constitutional edict that requires a House vote prior to the inquiry. Hell, you have GOP and White House officials REALLY pissed as to why the hell Giuliani was insinuated into the mix, let alone the retaliatory actions against seasoned, respected diplomats who questioned the President's actions. This BS about Shiff is a Hail Mary Pass by Trump to deflect the public's focus. It failed.
     
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    That is because right wingers routinely make up facts to support their crazy ass conspiracy theories. They were fake news when fake news wasn't cool.
     
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    A lie
     
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    Did anyone mention Taylor is scheduled to testify tomorrow?
     
  18. kungfuliberal

    kungfuliberal Well-Known Member

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    If you're saying something specific in my statements are a lie, PROVE IT. Proof meaning valid, documented facts and NOT your opinion, supposition or conjecture. I'll wait.
     
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    The stuff about Shifty is true, the House rules are clear, and there was no retaliatory actions....
     
  20. kungfuliberal

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    I asked for PROOF, NOT your generalized opinion....do you understand the difference? If so, hop to it. If not, get an adult to explain it to you and stop wasting time and space parroting your SOS. I'll wait.
     
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