Timing doesn't line up for Trump to have incited violence at the Capitol

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  1. Sanskrit

    Sanskrit Well-Known Member

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    They haven't seen the video of the guard fake-"resisting" the inorganic, planted pre Trump rally arrivals as they were LET RIGHT IN either. Or maybe they know full well and are just posting with their characteristic consistency and "honesty."
     
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    Asherah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's great that Trump made one statement that sounds good, after weeks of literally screaming falsehoods about having the election stolen from him, and never once denouncing threats that some of his supporters were making to people who had stood up to the falsehood. The fire was lit well before these people came to Washington for the "wild time" Trump promised.

    You seem to be arguing that these Trump supporters who broke into the Capitol didn't hear his Dec 6 speech. I consider that irrelevant. They had heard his irresponsible, delusional screams of election theft for 2 months. They believed him, and they believed they could do something to stop it on Jan 6.
     
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    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Facts to liberals are like holy water to a vampire.
     
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    Melb_muser Well-Known Member Donor

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    Simple question. Do you have any suggestions where the chanters in this video got their inspiration from? (If it wasn't Trump as you claim).

     
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    Maybe Trump can give himself the Medal of Freedom for the A++++ job be did Weds as he was obviously just an innocent victim. Regardless of what he said on Weds, this riot spawned directly from 2+ months of his lying
     
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    This is not accurate, the journalist's tweet which the blog posts sites does not describe protesters as breaching the building. What the tweet actually says is "Hundreds of Trump supporters have stormed the barricades at the back of the Capitol and are marching toward the building" more importantly, the tweet has a video attached showing protesters marching towards the guarded barricades at the back of the building.

    -> https://twitter.com/rebtanhs/status/1346879406581624833?s=20


    The first breach was not reported till around an hour later
     
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  7. Zorro

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    Fake News. Trump was never charged with anything. Susan Rosenberg, on the other hand, made the FBI’s Most Wanted list by the time she was 29, is among the most prominent far-left revolutionary activists in the U.S.

    Earlier this summer, she sparked controversy after it was discovered that she sat on the board as vice-chair of "nonprofit" that poured more than $10 million into leftwing causes including Black Lives Matter.

    The police officer who personally escorted Rosenberg out of the Newark courthouse in 1985 after she was sentenced to 58 years for explosives possession said her affiliation with the group showed that the same domestic terrorism ideologies from 35 years ago still are percolating now.
    retired NYPD Police Commissioner Bernard Kerik.

    Active in M19 Communist organization, which was involved in bombings, robberies and murders of multiple police. Pardoned by Bill Clinton, now a fundraiser and administrator of BLM global network #BLM #antifa #antifawatch

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    Unlike the last 3 Democrat Presidents, Trump has not used his pardon power to pardon or commute the sentences of any terrorists, and Trump didn't incite the violence at the capitol. And unlike the looters from the Left that have been carrying out havoc on our cities for months, the GOP will not raise bail for them, make excuses for them, or blame their actions on others.

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    After her pardon, City University New York gave her a nice gig teaching at Manhattan's Jay College of Criminal Justice.

    No one involved in the breakin at the Capitol will end up teaching at a Conservative University. You folks fool no one.
     
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  8. Modus Ponens

    Modus Ponens Well-Known Member

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    Trump was involved in incitement of this group of people well before they arrived in D.C. He had been grooming them for violence for a long time - see "2nd Amendment solutions," "Stop the Steal" (astroturf sloganeering which dates to the midterms), his provocative suggestion "It's gonna be wild!," etc. Never mind the fact that with the ubiquity of smartphones, people could rally at the Capitol building and listen to Trump at the same time.

    Not to mention of course, that Trump tried to leverage the attack, while it was underway, to get Senators to vote to support his suspension of the electoral vote certification. Then there was his "this is what you get" tweet. And his refusal to call the National Guard to relieve the siege. All this was essential insurrection - and Trump leveraged his mob of supporters, who he had groomed for a long time, not just on the day - to accomplish his Authoritarian ends. Trump should have been impeached and removed already.
     
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    Dude - dozens of reporters from both sides followed the marchers down from the Trump speech to the Capitol which had not yet been breached. Why post a
    story that is so easily disproved with fully documented evidence. Complete bullcrap.

    It's not funny anymore. Some Trump supporters have become cop killers, making them no better than Antifa. 50 officers injured. Antifa and MAGA - cop killers.
    The lowest of the low. And it's all documented in video and stills. You can't pretend it didn't happen. MAGA people killed a cop. MAGA people injured over
    50 cops.
     
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    Can't be Trump. He only invited boy scouts and nuns. Not Trump's fault.
     
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    It's very clear that deep cover Antifa agents were active at the Capitol. These are agents who pretend to be Trump supporters in order to make supporters look bad. They're deep cover so when you look at their social media profiles they seem to support Trump. You look at their offline activities and they seem normal. You look at their party registration over the past decade and they're registered Republican. But when they vote the vote Antifa. Russia, China, and Iran have deep cover agents. So does Antifa.
     
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    I never thought any of these last 4 years was funny. I realize that what you believe, you will never be convinced to change and I don't anymore about changing anyone's mind. Those like you who are suddenly clutching at your pearls in shock and dismay are kind of amazing. Did you REALLY believe that the 70+ million Americans who supported this President were all mentally challenged, evil, or anti-American?
    Do you believe that after watching cities burning and people dying for 6 months that it wasn't affecting the rest of the country?
    I have a friendly tip for you. Get emotionally prepared for what comes next. As your heroes take power and begin to create your utopia, there WILL be some bumps in the road and the occasional Monkey tossed up in the wrench. You guys seem to forget, during your righteous indignation that the REST OF US are Hard-headed Americans as well. The Left is on the path to crushing opposition and with no expressed interest in compromise.
    At some point in the future, you folks are going to grasp that hating and disrespecting those who disagree may feel good for a while but it won't ever change your life for the better or be a balm to the pain that's coming for all of us.
     
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  14. Daniel Light

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    Dude - I have no illusions about our political leaders - at this point, they are the Hatfields and McCoys - and I guarantee NONE of them are
    "my hero". I'm not a deranged MAGA supporter who thinks a TV con man is my "savior" nor do I think the Biden or Bernie or any of the others
    are more than average people. And when has storming the Capitol and killing and injuring cops become "compromise" in your mind?

    THIS is how power transferred from Obama to Trump. It ain't that hard. YOU folks, as you put it, could learn something.

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