To Impeach Trump or?? Consequences for Inciting Insurrection.

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  1. MiaBleu

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    A Senate impeachment trial after Trump leaves office? Some experts say yes

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/do...s-even-after-he-n1253544?cid=eml_nbn_20210109

    Trump is already organizing his legal team for an impeachment. That says he is at least aware of the situation he is in.......all self created of course.


    They cannot let him get away with what he has done. If they do.......... then the entire ethical, legal and moral fabric has been torn apart. The country has lost respect due to the fact he got away nth as much as he has. Standards hardly exist now.
    This episode requires some soul searching on everyone's part ......... as things really did go to a dangerous brink. We might want to re evaluate: what is more important ?? The Constitution , the country or personal ideologies ??
     
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    I think Trump should be impeached, many republicans agree

    not sure if we will get enough votes in the Senate, but it will be bipartisan for sure

    I doubt we can remove him in time, but we can impeach him.... just for the history books
     
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    I still feel like I did last time.
    You do what is right, not what you think you might win.
    But in this case I have an ulterior motive.
    I think it would be fun to see how many Republicans would vote to impeach knowing Trump couldn't run against them.
    It would be really interesting to see what the Republican party would be if Trump couldn't run.
    Trump would have to raise his money for real if he wants to rant.
     
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    Agree. If nothing more.....it would make a defiance statement about how this kind of behavior is dealt wit . It would be a step towards restriong crediblity. Othewise, we are a lawless county that allows despot leaders to get away with whatever they want......in the name of POWER.
     
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    'Failure and fragility': As Washington reels, U.S. foes seize the moment to help Trump mob undermine democracy

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/...os-trump-stoked-n1253318?cid=eml_nbn_20210109

    another consequence of Trump's behavior.

    Internationally, there is a collective shock and disbelief that the country allowed things to get this out of hand.
    The New image for america is this act of insurgence promoted by the POTUS.

    What do we say think when we see this in other nations?? .. We cannot look down on any other nation now... without being laughed at.

    "we have looked at the enemy and it is us"
     
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    Reprimanding or Censure would be more like it
     
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    Not just for the history books. For me, the importance is all about him not being able to hold office again and that his secret service detail, pension and travel allowance is cancelled.
     
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    Donald Trump's conduct as President was not like any other President He was never Presidential Material like the others were.
     
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    agree. He needs to be stripped of all post presidency perks.
     
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    They tried to impeach Trump once. I don't think they can do it again. Can they?
     
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    Yes they can.
     
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    Another poster commented that the SS detail is important because he has state secrets that need to be protected. In that regard, we will probably have to pay for SS for him no matter what.
     
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    Many GOP senators and congressmen and Women feared Trump on what could happen to them if they went against him before but that is not the case anymore.
     
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    I don't think they will impeach but if they do and succeed, Trump can't hold public office ever again. He should have never been elected President as he didn't know what he was doing in the first place. If they Censure him He won't try again again because he's nuts and needs to be put in the funny farm.
     
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    I hope Trump never holds public office again. He'll never get back his Facebook or Twitter again. Trump is done!
     
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    As I said If they impeach Trump, and succeed, Trump cannot hold public office ever again. Simple as that.
     
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    Let me add a little common sense to this opinion. Trump did not incite a riot. He incited a protest. The protest turned into a riot with no help from him. Think about it for a minute. If we were to impeach presidents every time one of their legal actions turned bad where would we be? Get past the emotion and think about that.
     
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    He said Pence betrayed them and the results of the election were being stolen. If you consider yourself a patriot and legit thought the election was being stolen and the President told you that your freedom was being stolen and to march on Congress to stop them, you wouldn't be thinking peaceful thoughts. Trump only needed to coincide if he respected the results, that speech and rally had no purpose except to incite violence.
     
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    That is an opinion I don't share. Do you have the text suggesting people form a riot and attack the capitol? See? It is just an opinion.
     
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    So if you consider yourself a patriot and thought the Republic was being subverted and the President rallied you to march on congress to stop them, you'd just show and... Stand there doing nothing? No, you'd take it as a call to arms. That the capitol PD and DoD were clearly in on it makes the obvious even more so.

    You don't have an option, you're just pretending a coup we all saw go down on live TV didn't happen and hopping to becomes true if you repeat it enough.
     
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    One thing is for certain, if anything is a really really stupid idea, be rest assured that the Democrats will be both supporting it and promoting it. Impeaching someone with only 10 days remaining in his term is one of those ideas.
     
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    So call him confused and desperate not criminal. He had no intent to cause a riot. If you think he did, prove it.
     
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    Like the SS would stop Trump from squealing - he wouldn't need to be kidnapped for that to happen, he could just see the benefit of squealing for his own selfish purposes and he'll sing like a canary. Or, just talk about sensitive info while he's talking to friends. He's the sort who would share it to show how important he thinks he is. No SS will be able to stop that
     
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    Arnold Schwarzenegger is criticizing President Donald Trump after the Capitol riots. The 73-year-old former governor of California released a video on Sunday slamming both Trump and those who've supported him after supporters of the president violently stormed the Capitol.

    Before he spoke about Trump, though, Schwarzenegger, a republican, thought back on his childhood in Austria, a country that "suffered the loss of its democracy."
    Arnold Schwarzenegger Calls Donald Trump the 'Worst President Ever' After Capitol Riots (msn.com)
    I'm pleased for What Arnold Schwarzenegger said about Trump and he's right and I agree with him.
     
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