To Impeach Trump or?? Consequences for Inciting Insurrection.

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  1. Richard Franks

    Richard Franks Well-Known Member

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    Trump will move to a place called Mar-A-Lago and there are people that don't want his as a neighbor whether he gets impeach or not. if you can believe that.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your claim that some Domestic terror threat eliminated the threat from Al Qaeda is preposterously false - and just makes no sense.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    OH .. I think you have made up your own special definition .. apart from the FBI definition.

    This is the definition of "Terrorism" not "Domestic Terrorism" baby steps since you seem to be having trouble with this concept.

    What is the FBI definition - for Starters.

    The above does not help me to know where your bar is set .. how you have defined "Terrorism" - only that one form is set apart from another - directed against most fundamental belief - which you claim is Democracy - and in a way I concur .. but this does not help me with your definition of terrorism ?

    The above is however a thought worth coming back to - once we have defined "Terrorism"

    I can try to infer your definition - Protesters storming a building and causing damage - and during this activity people get hurt or killed - seems to be terrorism in your books.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I realize that having your necessary Illusion bubble popped is painful - .. but -reality is what reality is and you must face facts.

    The reality that you are desperately trying to avoid and deny young Padawan - is that your hero Obama - should have been impeached and imprisoned for giving aid to the enemy - our main enemy in the war on terror - among other things.

    but that is Obama - what we are talking about here is the Orwellian Hypocrisy of Blue Congress - wailing platitudes " Took an Oath to defend against all threats - both foreign and domestic"

    We can debate which is more of a threat - but, both are threats - that much is clear Unless you wish to claim that the Blue Congress did not view Al Qaeda/ISIS as a threat over the last decade - and that our Gov't did classify Al Qaeda/ISIS as a threat - and good luck with that :)
     
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    all that just to say you're not over a severe case of ODS yet? lol tell ya what, you give us your criminals and we'll give you ours. deal?
    bring a car to take them away in and we'll have buses lined up to haul yours off. sound good?
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I voted for Obama -- Nice try at "Demonization of the Messenger" though.

    I have no criminals to give and why you would want criminals - I am not sure.

    What we do know is Obama is a War Criminal - and that most of Blue Congress are raging hypocrites on this issue.

    Are you not disappointed ?
     
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    of course I'm disappointed, his first day as President was his worst and we're paying for it big time right now.
    I want all crims of the worst sort out of circulation
    what modern era US President can't be called a war criminal except Carter?
    while Dems suck they are infinitely above the competition in every category so why bitch about it when we face far worse issues?
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And the red states want to sever ties with the US. They feel they have nothing in common with the liberal states like New York and California. Texas, which is the most self sustaining state, has started proceedings for secession.

    What happens now that John Sullivan who is a member of Antifa and Black Lives Matter and who instigated much of what happened in the Capitol Building, admitted that Antifa was going to infiltrate and cause violence during the Maga rally? Will the MSM apologize and admit to the public that blaming Trump was just another deception like the Obamagate Russia hoax?

    I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

    https://www.theepochtimes.com/black...dium=email&utm_campaign=breaking-2021-01-14-4

     
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    Finally a coherent post - Kudo's for that - even if I might disagree. Very good call on Carter IMO - and yes Rotten Ronnie and Daddy Bush .. nastorama - Terrorist supporting -Chemical Weapons - death squad dictators - drug dealing .. and the list goes on..

    This is what it is - and while I disagree with these actions from a moral and a financial perspective - my primary concern is Domestic Policy.

    On this front - Red has been an unmitigated disaster from a fiscal perspective - and an essential liberty perspective.

    Blue - Clinton/Obama - spent so much time cleaning up the fiscal mess left to them by Red - they did not have time to do too much damage - not that they would not like to - they couldn't.

    That said - Blue maintained the Status quo with respect to most things financial - did not change any of the systemic issues.

    Essential liberty - Obama was a disaster - did a complete 180 the civil rights activist did - and a complete 180 on the founding principles - did the Harvard Constitutional Scholar - but - I don't blame Obama for this - It is not like a President is thrust into a vacuum - and Presidents are "Selected" not "Elected" - and you have to pay the piper when you get to the top .. in our Pay to Play system.

    Blue is now Anti ACLU -- demonizing Dershowitz - Anti Free Speech, Information, Press .. Anti Whistleblowers
    Blue is now the Neocon Party - hence why they demonized Tulsi Gabbard - who brought forward the "Stop Arming Terrorist Act"
    Blue is now the anti Science party Demonizing Michael Moore - for presenting the facts - or if the info is not PC - or goes against the herd mentality of the day.

    The above was contributory - but, the straw that broke this camels back was that Blue is now Anti Environment - and that really sucks.
     
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    The Capitol riot had been planned for weeks and those plans were spread on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram. There were several leftist groups involved, to include ANTIFA and BLM. It's amazing what is discovered once the facts are gradually exposed.
     
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    common sense and all evidence in official hands completely dispels such desperate notions. who's planning the next ones?
     
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    thx, I can debate 100% successfully but why bother with the overtly sensitive denial nuts?
    under current circumstances I'm not that interested in anything prior to 2015
    my blue keeps a hot light on even the ACLU and Alan, love'm both but never let down your guard.
    my blue would never be Anti Free Speech, Information, Press, Anti Whistleblowers, but there are guard rails to freedoms.
    Tulsi? don't even go there
    my blue will not be anti Science or Demonizing Michael Moore
    my blue wants a virtual human-free perfection
    I can see how you might disagree with me or the Dems, I hate them, but I don't have a clue who your Blues are.
     
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    Can you rephrase that? I'm not sure what you're trying to say.
     
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    the claims are that this is all on the Left but no unbiased source sees a lick of proof, just noisy killers losers.
    I'm pretty sure there aren't any Lefties being busted daily with truckloads of weapons planning attacks on Gmt. this week.
    now you put that truth into hyper denial spin lol
     
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    ?? I certainly did not say that.

    I stated that our domestic terror threat has been more of a risk to Americans than foreign terrorism has been.

    And, that has been true for years, according to the FBI which logs such events.
     
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    Who said it was "all on the left?" Busting truck loads of weapons and people planning attacks on government isn't a daily thing.


    Extremists on the left and right use violence to exert their views.


    How did I put anything into "hyper denial spin" mode?
     
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    it's been daily bustings this week right in DC were everything has been calm and peaceful lol
    the Left is claimed extreme by righty extremists. carries 0 weight in validity, the active Left is a reaction to systemic brutality.
     
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    Ok. There's no sense in continuing this one.
     
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    I was crystal clear about the definition of "domestic terrorism" being the FBI definition.

    I thought you would just go look at it:

    https://www.fbi.gov/investigate/terrorism
     
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    thank you! another white flag for the collection.
     
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    Keeps him busy until he leaves office. Then he can be criminally prosecuted.
     
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    No. I just no that there's no sense in trying to discuss something whith someone who has no desire to actuall discuss an issue. Yiu only want people to agree with you.
     
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    I want them to accept reality and speak sanely and honestly, that's impossible for many. why should that hate be respected?
     
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    I noticed that you didn’t say you want people to have the freedom to speak freely. That want just a slip up on your part.
     
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    Senate impeachment trial: The next step in the Trump impeachment process - CNNPolitics

    This is going to interesting when A U.S. President being impeached a second time. The others that were impeached Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton were acquitted as well as Trump's first. President Richard Nixon was going to be impeached but resigned before they could do so. Nixon took the easy way out which was the right thing to do at the time. Trump might get it and be convicted and we can all understand that.
     

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