To straight marriage minded males: do you intend to be of support to your spouse

I'm very glad you were able to save yourself from such a terrible situation.
I'm personally in a relatively good position but I know things have changed a great deal between men and women (an understatement) and we need to start asking questions. For good or ill, I think the old social models that we still cling to out of habit need to change.

 

When everything is perceived as something that most others do not see....it may be beneficial to examine your own perception as the cause.

 

The four main temperaments (Guardian, Idealist, Artisan, Rational).

 

Thank you for sharing! Sadly an apologist for female DV is telling you that you should have taken abuse.

My mother is a true hero. She helps me with my disability -- unlike the vast majority of American parents who abandon disabled family members. I had a duly outstanding female therapist for a long time.

Most men hope to find a wife/partner who will love and appreciate them.

I mentioned in the past that men should hate misandrists. On one level it is self explanatory -- anyone would feel contempt for those who unjustly hate their birth group. Many minority people justly hate Richard Spencer. But there is a more important reason. Happiness of most men depends on finding a woman who loves and appreciates them. Men who live in a society where they are hated and viewed as Morally Inferior Privileged Oppressors are the most unhappy men.

 

I have no idea what that means or how it relates to what I said. ???

 

I was close with my mother, especially in later years before she died. But she was often hard to take. And she was physically abusive when I was little kid. But that didn't have as much of an impact as the way she treated my father. That pattern is what I carried into my own marriage. It is the only reason I remained married for more than six months. But back then, I didn't understand the significance of the signs. I do now!

I never seriously considered divorce until I put a gun to my head and tried to pull the trigger. And then I only stopped because at the last moment, I thought of getting laid by hot women. I hadn't been laid in ten years and decided that was worth living for; at least a little longer. So I told the ex I wanted a divorce. Then, as quickly as I could, made a bee line for Reno and high-priced escorts. After one wild weekend I felt the inkling of desire to live for the first time in years. Slowly it dawned on me that I wasn't just madly depressed. I was going to blow my brains out because of my marriage. But when you're that far down the rabbit hole, you can't think right anymore. Only after I started to regain my mental health, did I understand that the core problem had always been my marriage.

I just live in the moment now. If someone comes along, we fall in love, and we stay together the rest of my life, great. If not, I'll just have fun as long as I can. But it would take one hell of a woman to hook me again. The last time I fell in love it was with a 21 yo knockout. That would work again. Young, smoking hot, blonde, bright, kind, fun, engaging, mesmerizing, and she needs to be awesome in bed. That isn't so much to ask. But I found it once. I'll find it again.

 

Thank you for sharing. I was never abused, but in Russia I knew three boys and one girl abused by their mothers.

I am grateful to my grandmother (RIP) -- she mostly raised me. My mother still helps me with my disability.

My great-grandmothers worked to build a Socialist Society, while my great-grandfathers fought in Russian Civil War against White Guard. Unfortunately, in 1930s, Soviet Society became unfree.

 

I am not surprised.

 

No option for we both sponge off society and have never done a days work in our lives?

That's 70% of the site ineligible from voting then.

 

Thank you. Like myself, you seem to agree with Progressives on most issues, except their view of men as oppressors.

I support Welfare State, I oppose guns, I oppose White Nationalism. But I also find the view that men are Privileged Oppressors very harmful.

 

Being a gay male I’m no authority on women although my closest friends happen to be female, both lesbians and straight. However, I’ve always been fascinated with the collective hatred for women many straight males exhibit when gathered together without any females . In one workplace a long discussion about what was wrong with all women took place.
The phrase that got the most agreement was this one. “If it wasn’t for that smelly thing between their legs they’d be stacked ten high at the tip and set on fire"

 

The vast majority of males who act this way have something in common, they tend to be unattractive to women physically and mentally and what you note is a form of anger or frustration due to rejection or dismissal. There is also the bad picker phenom wherein one has limited selections and must settle for defective goods.

 

You really need to just stop talking and making a fool of yourself. I'm honestly starting to wonder if you're a woman.

The majority of men are eventually made intolerably miserable because the women they loved turned into a bitchy tyrants who never shut up.

 

I am in no way surprised that it would be you in particular that complains of my assessment. I also take your personal insult and recommendation for their worth....as in nothing.

 

All Humans are Created Equal. Unfortunately, MSM encouraged women to view men as Privileged Oppressors since 1990s. MSM portrayed abuse of men by women as funny or glorious since 1990s.

Thus, physical and mental abuse of men within marriage is indeed common.

Here.

 

I understand the ‘bitchy tyrants who never shut up’ part but that’s not all women. And no, I’m not a woman. You may not believe this but being a gay male living outside the heterosexual war game gives one a perspective that reveals faults on both sides of the straight divide.
For instance, I’m really puzzled why men allow women to dictate the interior decor of their little nests. How the hell do you sleep in those pink and pastel floral curtained snuff boxes of bedrooms? Then we have the weird insistance of so many females (other than dykes) the lounge room cannot possibly contain anything like visible audio equipment other than a video screen and shitty little Bose speakers somewhere up on the ceiling with a so called sub-woofer hidden under the sofa. Why do you guys let them get away with it? And don’t say if you don’t obey you wont get any bedroom rights. If you were really competant at pleasing her layship in that department it’s unlikely she’d deny herself the pleasure.

 

Define support.

I presume you mean financially, which is why I answered yes. However, my experience has taught me that the support women actually want is emotional, which I am entirely unsuited to provide. Which is why I'm single.

I can't understand why someone still can't handle their own **** even when they don't have any bills to pay. Which means I don't have the proper perspective to help them handle their **** (sympathy without empathy isn't enough). So if that's the support you're talking about, then one 'yes' should actually be a 'no'.

 

I did that for 30 years. I divorced her when I found out she was cheating on me. I was the sole bread winner, I always gave her the most dependable car, and I made to 90% of kids sporting events and band concerts. I worked 60 hours/week and dutifully gave her my paycheck to run the household. In spite of bringing home a six figure income we were living paycheck to paycheck. At the end, she got herself a credit card and ran up $10k in debt while she was sleeping with a neighbor. She got a part time job to pay the card down, but ended up sleeping with a 28 year old at her work. At the age of 51, she got her first full time job and did her own taxes for the first time. She got half of everything but her infidelity cost her $250k in spousal maintenance. She is on her own and regretting her mistakes. Since she left, I'm saving $4k/month and I'm about to build my dream home. I closed on the land purchase last week. My new Jeep is pretty sweet also. I still haven't decided my dating future.

 

Yep. As best I can for 36 years and counting.

 

I suspect that you are going to get a very large spread in the statistics between the responses of Republican voters and Democrat voters on this issue.

 

Tell that to one getting a divorce................................just sayin'